HE WROTE: Lambs to the slaughter
I'm posting this hoping none of the attendees for my retreat tomorrow are reading it tonight or else they might not show up. The title is scary enough. I told Jenny, well e-mailed her, we never talk on the phone, that there would be tears tomorrow and she said for me to be nice.
Sigh.
Hannibal Lecter: Tell me, Clarice - have the lambs stopped screaming?
Nah, I'm not that mean. I tend to be very blunt in my critiques to give bang for the buck. I'm going to share some observations, at the risk of being lynched tomorrow, about the manuscripts I've read.
But first.
I missed the angry blog. Damn. Like we said before, don't try this at home or without adult supervision. And I did say "I am wrong" in front of a lot of people and it was caught on camera during one of our presentations.
Also, everyone needs to cut Jenny some slack. We're creative partners and that's it. Which is more than enough to cause more problems than you could imagine. The nice woman introducing us for one talk did our bios and then said: "And how did Jenny and Bob meet? Sex. They--" and I cut her off there, politely and she was very sweet, but it's like most people can't grasp we have this great creative thing without the YEXXY stuff. Jenny is tired of telling people 'no, that's not the way it is' and I'm tired of her having to say it. She's a freaking great writer who has taught me more than I could imagine and also been a solid friend through some really hard times. She also was the ONLY one who saw the potential of She Wrote, He Wrote and putting both our names on the cover while everyone, including me, argued otherwise. So Bob is going to get edgy about this if it comes up, and when Bob starts referring to himself in third person, it's time for people to be afraid of Bob. Redrum. Redrum.
Where was I?
My retreat is at the Marriott Beach and Golf Resort on Hilton Head and I buy two Krispy Kreme donuts and a large cup of coffee there for breakfast every day I teach. I have received some aghast looks from attendees because of this. I know not why. Bob likes the ones with jelly in them.
"We won." I was in the back when Jenny threw that one out and I started looking for the door because although born in NYC and raised there, I have spent considerable time in the South and people down here are a tad touchy about that whole episode.
It wasn't quite as bad, though, as when we presented at Reno and Jenny told the three hundred women attending our talk that ole JT Wilder, my hero, never told Lucy, her heroine, he loved her in the entire 116,000 words of DON'T LOOK DOWN, our Romantic Adventure, coming out April 4. hint, hint.
So I wrote Wilder saying it after three hundred women hissed at me. Standing on one skid of a Huey while Lucy is on the other as they fly in toward the climactic scene. He yells it across the cargo bay. While LaFavre, his best buddy the pilot, banters and cracks jokes about impending death.
Sigh.
For some reason, Jenny didn't think that was appropriate.
So Wilder does say it, but you're going to have to read the book to find out when and where. Nananana. But it does involved a sniper rifle and an MP-5 submachinegun which is cool. And right after Wilder laments not having brought his night vision goggles. It's a guy thing.
So. Writing.
I've never read a category romance. But it was very eye-opening to read these manuscripts. They talked about heart-pounding like guys talk about, well, we won't go there.
You know, one time at my retreat, the attendees all bought wine and beer like the second day and proceeded to drink themselves silly during an afternoon session. Bob knows not why.
Where was I?
Oh, heart-pounding.
And eyes. Lots of eye contact. Can women really tell every single thing about a guy from just looking in his eyes? What does Clarice see when she looks in into ole Hannibal's eyes? And how many of you liked the ending of HANNIBAL? Hehe. Guess Clarice liked what she saw in his eyes.
I digress. And am not sure why I'm quoting Hannibal Lecter. This could be bad.
Bob's mind is wandering. This is not good.
Bob needs to get back to work.
Redrum.

26 Comments:
This third-person thing--is Bob channeling Bob Dole?
And when I was on the Hilton Head Set Point Diet, there was ABSOLUTELY no reference to Krispy Kremes....
Ok, I understand the guy thing re: the ILY statement, complete with weaponry, etc. I also understand the Krispy Kremes. But I have to admit, quoting Hannibel Lechter prior to your writer's workshop is of concern, unless we are to address you as Hannibel Mayer or Bob Lechter (not a suggestion).
Yes, it's really a sad commentary when 2 people of opposite gender that work together can't possibly be friends period.
Have a good workshop and Be Nice!
I don't get that there are people who don't get that there isn't any Yexxy-panky going on. Just reading the blog it's obvious you two are sooo NOT.
wierd.
chelle
Well, I think the reason should be obvious to romance writers.
We're accustomed to seeing the kind of playful tension displayed in this blog result in an HEA. Our perceptions of reality are skewed that way.
I mean, come on. This blog is better than watching a Tracy-Hepburn movie!
(Okay, lest anyone misunderstand, put me down for the camp that believes Jenny and Bob aren't an item, and thinks it's all MOOT anyway.)
I'm fine with JT not saying the words as long as he is showing Lucy how he feels about her. I'm a firm believer in action speaks louder than words.
Bob, are you sure you haven't been writing comedy under another pen name, because I sure got a laugh out of your blog.
Consider it a compliment that everyone is wanting the two of you to get together. Everyone wants y'all to be happy and seconding Randy's comment, romance readers consider getting together an HEA.
Well. Hum. I guess I'm glad that I'm not attending the Hilton Head retreat.
Good for you Bob (first, second, or third person - whoever you are today) for being sticking up for your partner. Fun is fun but it is easy to see where things would be getting old about now.
Chivalry isn't dead after all . . . though I am a bit frightened it is murmering redrum, redrum.
The real question in the south is do you say PEcans or PeCANS?
(per previous anonymous post)
Sigh, sorry ... obviously the word "being" didn't get hit by the delete key before posting.
Bob did good. Bob go eat Krispy Creme and drink coffee now. All will be okay.
As for the YEXXXXXY stuff, give them the LOOK when it comes up again. The lambs will read every single evil thought running in your head.
Have a good conference!
Hi Bob,
As the nice woman who introduced you, what was to follow before you cut me off was the quote from the Crusie/Mayer web site--the thing where you asked Jenny what she wrote and she said stories about people who have sex and get married, and you said you wrote stories about people who have sex and die. The point being, sex was the common denominator in both of your writing. But since you cut me off...well, it sort of left everyone's imaginations to run where ever it took them. Sorry. Might have been better to let me finish. Less confusing that way.
Debby
Okay - I AM here at the Hilton Head Slaughter, er, retreat. I shouldn't have read this tonight. Maybe I won't show up...I had dinner and drinks with a couple of the other attendees...I'm thinking we didn't drink enough tonight.
Bob - Be nice
Cyndi
Oh, Bob. I'm sorry there are those who don't get the "we're working partners ONLY!" Way to tell 'em! But, the Hannibal references are a bit scarey!
As for the person who asked about the pronunciation of pecans, it depends on what part of the South you are in. I say "pec-hans". Does that help?
Maybe when you do your next joint appearance you should be wearing t-shirts that say "I'm NOT with him/her". Think it would be blatant enough, or would they just think it was a case of too much protesting?
Poor Bob. Poor Jenny. (Hey, Jenny, I just bought two more of your books today, does that make you feel any better?) Oh, and speaking of buying books, are you guys going to do any kind of coupon thing for DLD like you mentioned before?
You know, I think the problem is there just isn't enough "Buddy Genre" where one buddy is a man and the other is a woman. If we had that meme to follow, things would be a lot easier for co-ed friends.
Maybe romance writers need to put more guy-friends into stories. But, at this point in time, guy-friends look suspiciously like Chekhov's smoking gun in the first act.
I'm heartened that your partnership isn't romantic -- because I'd really, really like to believe two people of the opposite sex can relate to each other as fellow human beings and share a great friendship, rather than reducing things to he-man, she-woman. My rather limited personal experience has been disappointing. (-: But I believe you guys.
"...it's really a sad commentary when 2 people of opposite gender (that work together) can't possibly be friends period."
One of my best friends and one I shared a house with for a while is a guy. A good looking guy. We have never been anything but friends because we just never had that romance thing going. We think alike in many ways, work really well together, and socialize pretty well, too.
I'm enough older than him that he'd obviously fall into the "younger man" category. Yet, every place we went, people, usually other guys, would say things like, "Boy, your mom is sure young," or, "So, you're his mother?" LOL!
I had to laugh, but, really, if two people are of the opposite sex, are lover or blood relative the only two options for their relationship??? Why wouldn't they just think we were friends? We never did anything to send out those lovey dovey signals, yet the question was always asked.
I asked someone once, "Why? Do you think we look alike?" Funny thing is, though, that we look far more alike than he and his mother do. I look more like his sister, too. ;+) She's not mine, either, BTW.
Would it help to tell everyone that Bob is gay?
I didn't think so....
Anyone else remember the camera commercials that James Garner and Mariette Hartley did years ago? People thought they were a couple, and she took to wearing a tee shirt that read "Not Married to James Garner."
There is at least one wonderful (fictional) archetype for the male/female team of two very close friends who are not sexually involved with one another: Modesty Blaise and Willie Garvin.
I suppose that dates me.
The whole, "Are they having a mad affair" question gets old for us who have heard you two speak at conferences. If it annoys us, it must make you two want to commit murder -- with the gasses mixing in the gun to expel the bullet at short range.
It's like reporters constantly asking us if we research our sex scenes or if our characters are based on ourselves or people we know. They keep asking the same question twelve different ways, hoping we'll slip.
Empathy to both of you for the aggravation.
Married to an ex-infanteer, I think I know why Wilder laments about not having brought his NVGs. ;)
Dollface, jelly-filled Krispy Kremes are the best. You are a man of impeccable taste. Obviously.
Bob-
Just wanted to say the comment about the end of Hannibal brought all the anger back. I finished the book and threw it across the room I was so disgusted by it. It struck me as totally wrong - Clarice would never, never go off with him, and I'm not even sure I buy that he would want her to if she had to be coerced/brainwashed to do it...Way to get my blood moving : )
You know people are gonna think whatever they want, rude thoughts, good thoughts, or just be plain curious. I wouldn't let them get to me. I'd just ignore them and look mysterious.
That said, Bob is less scary than he thinks. I went to his retreat last year and survived. I didn't get drunk, but I did cry. Not because he said my hero was awful and had an anger problem, I put him through anger management, gave him a haircut and moved on. He's so nice now, even I'd date him. (Not Bob, my hero.) I cried because I realised I wasn't as far along in my writing career as I'd hoped.
However, that said,I gained so much from the retreat and it's such a beautiful location. The book I worked on (it's a hands on workshop) has been requested and is under consideration at SuperRomance. I can only hope ....
Being friends---creatively brilliant friends---is just fabulous.
Bravo, Bob and Jenny!
I think my six year old daughter is channeling Bob. She's refering to herself in the third person too.
Hooray for doughnuts. Not sure the alcohol was a good sign, but it helped in Reno at that dinner you mentioned LOL.
You guys are doing great. Just ignore the annoying stuff and keep being there for us romance writers because we need both of you!!
Certainly not to beat a dead horse, or subject as the case may be, but on the topic of a possible romance between Bob and Jenny--I think it might be of some importance to remember that at this point, the majority of the fans are romance readers. Which I think means they really like romance.
When romanticly-inclined people see a couple they care about, who interact so very well; they want them to be happy. And in the world of the romantic, that means a romantic relationship.
I'm sure for the imaginees (i.e. Bob and Jenny in this particular scenario), that gets hard to take; but for the imagineers (of whom I must admit I find myself), it's awfully tempting to sit back and fantasize all sorts of happy endings for people we care about.
So, it might help the imaginees to just consider all these romance rumors as indications that there are a whole lot of readers who like you both and wish you the very best of everything, with a rapturous HEA.
We, the readers, of course, think the HEA means a romance; y'all can just consider it a NYT #1 best seller, lots of $$$, and creative fulfillment. Pick your paradigm.
Hannibal: Jaw dropper, best ending possible EVER. Thomas Harris writes magically as well.
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