SHE WROTE: Back At The End Again
And here we are moving toward the end again.
We've been collaborating for so long, two years now, that I think we've both forgotten this is only our second book. So when we hit the end again, we were surprised all over at the shift from Bob to me.
Bob drives in the beginning. I flail around, I write scenes out of order, I'm slow, I cogitate, I look for patterns, I try to pick the flowers and buy the clams playing poker, Bob drives down the highway, eyes on his GPS, and slaps my hand and makes me stay the course.
And then we get close to the end and I look at the pages and pages and pages he's driven us through, at the thousands and thousands of words, and I say, "Wait a minute." And he pulls off the road, exhausted, and goes into a diner to get a cup of coffee, and I put on my glasses and say, "Hoo, boy, there are patterns here, but there's too much STUFF," and I get out my knife and I start to do my thing.
I'm doing my thing. Bob's screaming. We've been here before. Remember "In the darkness there is death"?
Our first act ran 44,000 words. A first act is set-up, introducing everybody in their worlds, then getting them in trouble, building the tension, sliding in the back story as quietly as possible, and then, at the turning point, spinning the whole thing around and propelling the protags and the antag forcefully into real action. Ideally it should take no more than the first quarter of the book because you don't want your reader sitting around waiting for the good stuff to start (and of course you put a lot of good stuff in the set-up, too). My books are always huge with characters, I love community, so my set-ups are closer to a third of the book, which is pushing my luck.
If our set-up is 44K, our book would have to run 132K. No. That’s just too damn much to read before Agnes picks up her meat fork and Shane drops his cell phone and runs like hell toward disaster. So I took Act One apart. I looked for repetition—we had a lot of it—I looked for back story—we were in love with it—I looked for plot threads that we were spending too much time with. We have our A plot—that’s Agnes’s save-the-house plot—we have our B plot—that’s Shane’s kill-Casey-Dean plot—we have our C plot—that’s the romance plot—we have our D plot—that’s Joey’s hide the old train robbery plot--we have our E plot—that’s the Xavier plot. Here’s a clue: if you have an E plot, you’ve probably overplotted your book. And we’re spending a lot of time on that E plot. It’s either got to move up and become more important, or we’ve got to cut it. Except Bob loves the E plot. In the darkness there is Xavier. We can’t move it up to A, B, or C, they’re set in stone. We can’t replace D; it’s integral to A, B, and C. So I get out my knife . . .
Bob will undoubtedly be in later this week to complain about Xavier. Right now, he’s sick. We’re both sick. But it’s my turn on the book. He works the up front stuff, carrying me while I whine. I work the back end, cutting and shaping while he screams. I just sent him the cut version of Act One. It’s 37K. I think we have to cut at least another 2K (even I can’t get it shorter than that). He’s getting sicker.
He’s just going to have to lie down in the back seat. It's my turn to drive for awhile.
Poor baby.

203 Comments:
Jenny - well now, you sound much better. Must be being in the drivers seat again. I hate being a passenger, much prefer to drive, but knives scare me, so do becareful. And don't forget to pull off the road to rest, even if for just a minute. You do need your rest. GO JENNY!
Jenny! We were hoping you'd be feeling better by now. Did you find your blanket? We've been quite concerned about that.
Good little writer that you are you are soldiering on in your misery. And don't think we don't appreciate that. And after reading the trials and tribulations of the Bob and Jenny show for the past 9 months, we appreciate it even more.
Take care, drink lots of tea with honey and lemon, and remember we love you.
Jenny is feeling better.
Blogger isn't.
And, Bob, poor Bob, is gonna have a LONG week.
I sure hope they can save Xavier, cause we've all gotten pretty attached to him.
Bob is ill as well? Oh dear, you poor things. :-(
MCB prescribes tea with honey and lemon: I suggest you add some whisky. In fact, you can safely leave out the tea. Possibly the honey and lemon as well. :-)
La Tigress says ... MCB prescribes tea with honey and lemon: I suggest you add some whisky. In fact, you can safely leave out the tea. Possibly the honey and lemon as well. :-)
I can see the conference with their editor now. "Love it, really love it! Good stuff. Mmmmm, coupla points: Did you really mean to have the flamingos shooting the alligators? And who are Jacques and Pierre? And this bit with Xavier being strangled by the cord on an electric blanket ..."
But not TOO much whiskey. They are on deadline, after all. Sending hugs and chicken soup to all.
If you cut Xavier, do we get to see him in an excerpt here a la the cole slaw and Princess?
So maybe Xavier needs his own book.
G&T
G&T That's what I was thinking. Jenny is going to cut Xavier, I can just tell. But we've had so much fun with him the last several months, they must have several ideas for trouble in which to embroil him. Maybe he's evicting some malcontents from their parents' basement...
Plenty of fluid for Bob and Jenny. You don't want us to stay a little longer to help take care of you both, do you? I feared not.
If Bryan is hosting the cbbarandgrill, won't we have his blog style? I think the lettering is big over there, and no verificiation sentences. I hope that helps AgTigress and others who detest blogger.
Glad you are feeling better Jenny. It sounds like you are back in fighting form ready to conquer the world, Xavier, and Bob (in no particular order) whether they like it or not.
Maybe you should let Bob recline in the front seat while riding shotgun. Sometimes laying down in the back seat makes me nauseus.
Take a break outside to go enjoy the lovely, if not windy, fall Ohio day.
Goodness, what a lot of different skills are required for this process: first the building up, then the cutting down. Poor Xavier. Well, he will live eternally in verification sentences, even if the book gets a Xaviectomy.
M&M Mars is NOT in touch with the sophisticated Cherrybomb taste. While dark chocolate M&Ms are, occasionally available, they are not featured at MyMMs.com. However, one can get selected colors (with a logo or message) AND a variety of flavors.
So, if one were to arrange a real (as opposed to virtual) cherrybomb party, one could get the cherry flavored ones, or maybe even get a logo on them. If one chose. In this case, apparently, the flavor comes from the candy shell, not the chocolate, which certainly makes production sense. I haven't tried them (they run a little pricey for just trying, and it's not even fairly traded chocolate). But quite cute in many ways.
kfflf: kids fed fudge live friendlier
Do any of the cherrybombs going to New Jersey mind if I open up dinner on Friday night to include the cherries? I'm still not positive there isn't a dinner with the conference that night.
Jenny said, "He’s just going to have to lie down in the back seat. It's my turn to drive for awhile."
Yow. That is frightening just how like me and DH operate. Except if we are ever sick at the same time we are going to kill one another one of these days. I've gone to work, sick, just so we'd live to see another day.
Bob, hope you feel better soon.
mynnwxm: *sigh*
My yodeling nincompoop nicely writes xerox messages.
Shhhhh, Scope Dope is sleeping. She does that a lot these days. She says she's storing up energy for NJ so look out MCB!
Just reminding everyone to check out the new Logos Lori posted on the Cherry Bomb Ideas page.
CMS: We should probably try to firm something down in the next week or so, huh? Dinner with the Cherries Friday is fine with me, if we can do our own gathering Saturday night. Maybe after dinner in the party room.
Warning - shamless promo for someone else...
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Okay, back to making Bob feel better. I understand car sickness, get it all the time, which is why I usually drive.
I'm sorry that Bob isn't feeling well. I understand that the whiskey recommended for the cold symptoms can also help (at least temporarily) with pain, e.g. resulting from character amputation.
nblqcsrg: no block quote causes serious regrets (I just tried and that HTML tag doesn't work here; I thought it probably wouldn't or some savvy person would have used it, but just in case!)
Jenny - be careful knife wielding and driving - but definitely do both, because quite honestly I really love the end result!
Bob- feel better, it may be hard with some of those knife punctures, and don't get dizzy riding shotgun. That can be difficult for you manly men.
xnrvxx - I think blogger wants Xavier - or has a really dirty mind
tigress - blogger ate my last comment, probably because I waxed envious of your orange flavoured almost M&Ms. You Brits are so lucky, that exotic accent and tasty sweets. And I'm with you, the less tea, lemon and honey and the more whiskey - always good for a cold, yes?
btuda - about the talk, we have always been a proper word family, and also open, ask all questions, blah, blah, blah - but my mom is of the there is a book for everything and information is king school, got us a book My Body, Myself for Boys, by Lynda Marsada(?), very good, pre-teen and parent friendly, and addresses all things boy adolescent.
Great logos!
Jenny has posted a new entry on Argh Ink
Jenny wrote: He’s just going to have to lie down in the back seat. It's my turn to drive for awhile.
Is there enough Nyquil and duct tape in the entire world to make this happen? We’ve heard his vocabulary when he’s driving, I can only imagine what he sounds like as a passenger.
Jenny, please tell me you are not going to kill Xavier. Geez. That would be like DLD without LaFavre. JT without Rene. Wait. I can see how that might not be the best reference to evoke fond thoughts. It would be like Lucy without whatshername, Daisy. Or Lucy without Gloom.
I suppose Bob has already told you what you can do with the C plot? Yeah, thought so. Does Agnes have to save the house? Are you sure? Maybe you can just drop Three Wheels off the dock instead? Along with a few of the mothers? And the cake?
I was so looking forward to “In the darkness there is Xavier.”
Hey! I’ve got an idea. Take all that backstory info-dump stuff and put it on the blog. Then add a little prologue to the book (we know how you love those) telling people to go read the blog before they read the book. Innovations in publishing. That should cut 30,000 words or so and you can leave Xavier intact (not like that, geez).
Oh yeah, the blog will be gone by then. Sigh.
Maybe you could turn Xavier into a ficelle? Then he would be “useful and necessary.” I’m sure Bob wouldn’t mind, not after hearing the exhausted-- um, exhaustive definitions of the term.
Maybe what you really need are some Delta readers. I'm sure we could come up with an idea or two. We're very suggestive.
Bob? You are going to save Xavier, aren’t you? Just how sick are you anyway? Is this one of those too sick to read the blog kind of things? Or too sick for a 30-mile forced march through the swamp carrying 80 lbs of gear kind of things?
Just asking.
Poor baby. Feel better soon. Please.
bw
everything is breaking down here (as is their immune systems), but Jenny has a knife so all should be well. even if our X man disappears.
x man. ha! (ok, i think i'm getting punchy here...what do you mean, you can't tell the difference?)
anyway, Jenny, now you start posting? when your sick? maybe someone should explain what resting means. i'm glad, of course, more Jenny words, but we need you healthy for future books.
i've actually has whiskey before when i was sick. or some kind of liquor.
and ithought lori was camping. when did she put new logos up?
i think i may be rambling soon. oh great, and i still need to eat Plato.
i meant read. i don't think you can eat plato. at least not without serious indigestive problems.
i really think your knife cuts should be pasted here, Jenny. or on the new site. i'm not picky.
I will hold out hope for Xavier, either in this book or some other one, provided that Jenny and Bob don't kill each other any time soon.
I stand behind whiskey as a cure-all in moderation. Gin and tonics are fine in the summer, but the only thing that stops my repetitive-strain injured hands and arms from huring is a lovely manhattan.
You can get customized M&Ms? Get OUT.
Clearly I need to tune in here more often.
G&T
Okay- I confess- I've been out with the head cold from Hades and have barely had the energy to make it to work (didn't even do that much for a few days) let alone keep up with y'all so I am throwing myself on the collective mercy of the Cherry Bombs and begging, that's right I'm on bended knee here... DON'T LEAVE ME BEHIND!!!! I need to know where y'all are going. This last little bit has been some of the worst of my life- I've barely been keeping up with Jenny and Bob's posts, I haven't had the energy to read comments. Please have pity. I beg of you don't excommunicate me. Please!! But, if someone could direct me to the new home. And let me know where how to send my dues. And now that I'm pretty much over my cold (I usually only get one, but it's usually a doozy) for the season I would like to mention that I did offer, oh so many weeks ago, when first discussing a new home, that I would be delighted to blog either regularly or guest like.
So, I guess in closing. Help. And please leave a forwarding address.
CC!!!! We missed you!!!
New home. We bought the land but Zaza still needs to build the house. Or in our case, the bar and grill.
No grovelling necessary. You know what they say, home is the place that when you go there they have to take you in. Welcome home!
OH, I attempted to read your above posts and I do believe college is having a bad influence on you. Everything okay, dear?
Sheri - bus driving. OH has that one right, cool job. I always say you should never knock somebody else's job, because you have no idea what it really involves. And you provide a service and carry a lot of responsibility.
Hi Penny!!
Kate.
Hi KATE LOL
mcb I used to believe home was the place where they had to take you in but then we got kicked out of the basement.
conscripted cherry I will tell you where our new home is as soon as I know. Don't worry I will make sure you go. I won't leave you behind.
Orangehands enjoy Plato. I thought Philosophy would be a really dumb course but I really loved it. I had never read any of the philosophers before and I learned a lot. Besides that I got an 89 so I loved the prof too.
Jenny and Bob get well. Try not to drink all that whiskey (Scotch, isn't it?) before you see your publisher or editor. It makes for poor public relations. Or can do.
red tiwprzrt
To initial writers: please replicate Zaza's riting technique.
Cherry Magic Sheryl said...
If Bryan is hosting the cbbarandgrill, won't we have his blog style? I think the lettering is big over there, and no verificiation sentences. I hope that helps AgTigress and others who detest blogger.
Blogs are essentially software packages. You have a choice of "themes" or "skins" which determine the layout and look and feel. I'm pretty sure Mollie (am I spelling her name wrong?) did the designs for Jenny and He/She. You can accept an existing theme, or you can tweak one, or do one from scratch. So, to answer CMS's question, no, it won't look like his. Totally different beast.
Part of the blog options are the "styles." Among the things covered by styles are fonts, colors and font sizes. So, probably if we asked nicely, Mollie could make the font in the comments larger by changing that in the template. I think. I'm not that up on Blogger.
Tigress mentioned that even expanding the window didn't expand the text field for making comments. That's true if you read each post on its individual page. But if you stay at the main page of the blog, e.g., www.crusie-mayer.com/blog, and click on "comments," then enlarge the little popup window, the field for typing your comment gets way huge. Font, of course, stays the same size, but the window gets to nearly full screen, so you have much more text in view as you write or proofread. Ditto the preview and comments.
Glad you're feeling better, Jenny. Sorry Bob is now succumbing to the creeping crud. But maybe it's better to be sick and out of it while Jenny is wielding the knife. Less painful that way.
As long as there are Xs in the word verifications, Xavier will always remain in our hearts and minds. Not knowing a lot about the guy, though, I have to wonder whether that's a good thing.
bhdbfx (green)
Bob had double barrel fun Xavierectomying.
What does that mean? You mean it's supposed to have meaning? Huh.
Conscripted Cherry said...
Okay- I confess- I've been out with the head cold from Hades...I am throwing myself on the collective mercy of the Cherry Bombs and begging, that's right I'm on bended knee here... DON'T LEAVE ME BEHIND!!!!
Poor Baby! It does seem to be going around. And, don't worry, no one gets left behind unless they want to be. We won't be evicted until New Year's, so relax and enjoy the next three months.
aisdhgji (red)
a sneeze, especially after inhaling too much cayenne
This sickness is spreading through the CB world. I'M SICK! First I woke up at 2am with an extra body in my bed. Middle child is in pain with his new braces and somehow he managed to climb his 5foot 110 pound body inbetween his father and I without us knowing. So, I wake with this little person sprawled out all over me, snoring softly in my ear, then I realize, I can't breath! Of course, middle child is clinging to me, so I can barely move. This is the child that wouldn't let me go back with him in the orthodontist office because he wasn't a baby anymore and he's now in my bed!!!! Good grief.
I finally manage to break free, without waking either of them, go down stairs, take something, drink OJ, then decide if I'm going to sleep, I better find another bed, so I take middle child's bed. About an hour later, still not sleeping and where is middle child, you guessed it, with me, in his bed. Geez, I can't win. I finally made it back to my own bed at about 4 in the morning, still can't breath, my head feels like it's going to explode and then my alarm goes off.
Blogger is spreading illness.
Jen - oooo, yuck, and a poor baby for you and middle son, especially since such close proximity means he'll be stuffed soon too! And those dang braces - ouch! Try to be nice to your little dancers, on little sleep, I don't envy your task, and I'm pretty sure the little cuties 'rents wouldn't like a whiskey soaked dance teacher, so maybe stick with the otc meds.
MCB: the check is in the mail, as they say.
jvjvlkfg Jenny's vexed, just voiced loathing kvetch for germs
Scope Dope,
Scotch whisky doesn't have an 'e' in it. If there is an 'e', it is either Irish or North American whiskey.
And all you sick people...
Get better soon, but until then keep your germs to yourself. Yowzers! No face-to-face meetings until after flu season.
Perhaps someone should give something to Bob for the pain of the cutting that Jenny is doing?
jen-t: hope you feel better too.
I just broke out the hot chocolate for everyone who's not feeling so good. Which reminds me that I've got to get restocked on the good stuff, marshmallows and chocolate spoons anyway.
Feel better soon everybody. Stay the @#$% away from me, but feel better soon. Really. Take the chocolate ... nuts. I think I've got the sniffles, which is step one of the seven steps into hell aka The Cold.
iwswy: I want some w&w - yellow. Hey, look! My m&m was upside down...
Bryan informed us ... Scotch whisky doesn't have an 'e' in it. If there is an 'e', it is either Irish or North American whiskey.
The things you learn here. I did not know this.
Zaza said ... But if you stay at the main page of the blog, e.g., www.crusie-mayer.com/blog, and click on "comments," then enlarge the little popup window, the field for typing your comment gets way huge.
Oh. You know I think I've done this before but accident and yes, as I recall the window was much bigger.
And we'll be able to adjust the font and size on our own blog? Cool. I guess that means another vote. hehehe.
Keep cutting Jenny, just flash that knife and chop away. Get feeling better too.
All these colds! Is there a mid-west epidemic moving east?
I stopped having so many when the kids got old enough to stop bringing them home! I also discovered taking vitamin C every day helped. Then when one hit, sucking on lozenges with zinc in them helped cut down on the time. Using them when the symptoms start immediately has stopped them in their tracks.
And likker or likkr help, no matter where it comes from. Or maybe it just gives the illusion of helping!
Oh, and you all who are still well, wash your hands. You never know where someone's hand has been that used the doorknob before you did! No, not there! Shame on you!
BUSINESS: ...If Bryan is hosting the cbbarandgrill ... Enlighten me! How can he have his and ours both? I'm kinda illiterate in this website stuff.
rrjtrowq: Really, Really, Just Trust Red Owls With Quills.
Yep, I'm getting a cold too. Not too bad yet (knock wood), but it should make the mandatory writing of the next week or so rather fun.
Started plying myself with tea yesterday. Just not a whiskey or a whisky person. (And imagine what that would do to my dissertation :).
BCB - I will get to your questions! I haven't forgotten.
Finally, finally, sent draft journal article to my advisor. Now to start gluing the pieces of my diss together.
gatorperson,
I've set up a subdomain on my website so it acts like a website unto itself. ZaZa is working on getting the blog set up (I already installed the software; she's designing and tweaking).
It's kinda like I'm having everybody stay with me until we've bought the land and built the buildings at our new place.
When it's time to move, we just save the files from my website and port them over to the new place. That way we don't lose any posts or comments.
GP - as I understand it from what Zaza said before, Bryan pays for an allotment of space which he doesn't use all of. A bit like being assigned a large wall but his part only takes up the left side ... so he would let us use the upper right hand corner. That's my own interpretation of what she said anyway.
Another firm believe in zinc lozenges. Start using at the very first sign, as GP said. Sniffles, scratchy throat ... and you might be able to stop it dead.
Another vote for zinc lozenges. I've started popping them just because everyone around me is sick. There will be NO flu in New Jersey. I have decreed.
I don't care if there is an e in my whisky or not. It all makes a great base for Irish Cream which is pretty much the only way I drink it.
ummm, everything on page is different, font, space, colors, all of it. Is anyone else getting this.
McB - check's in the mail.
OK, seriously my comment box is like an inch wide, as I am completely computer special ed. - I'm very confused and don't know how to change it. Maybe I'll send this, go do the acursed laundry, pretend to be a good housewife, and all will fall back into place. Not very Crusiesque of me, I'm very unreceptive of change.
Andi and ME (you know that just never really sounds right) ... thanks much.
Andi ... that happens when blogger is feeling snarkier than usual.
cms,
Heather Cream is whisky (no 'e') based and far better than Bailey's. Try it sometime if you can find it.
Apparently, the virus is sweeping out to both coasts. My boss came in on Monday with a head cold. He always says he's okay, he can work, but he WHINES. For the record, whining is not pretty on 60-year old men.
He just called in this morning to tell me he doesn't have the will to get dressed this morning. (! My bosses (married) are of that group known as "Morning People". They think 6:00am is a late start.)
Since we're a 4-person office and tend to pass everything back and forth, I'm going to spend my lunch break stocking up on antibacterial wipes and zinc lozenges.
Will your Jersey conference be forced to hand out surgical masks and gloves?
PS - OH, try not to partake so much of the "college life" on school nights. : )
The usual spelling of whisky in British English is whisky, because we assume Scotch as the 'default', so to speak. Because I drink Irish quite a bit, I often spell it whiskey, which is the normal AE (American English) spelling. I seldom drink any North American variants of the spirit, though I have nothing against them.
I can't quite understand the appeal of cream-and-whisky liqueurs, though they are quite interesting poured over ice-cream. I haven't come across Heather Cream at all, though I know there are other brands that are made, like Baileys, with Irish.
mcb said "me" never sounds right. Just doing my best to keep everyone on their toes.
I've grown attached to "me" (not that way) but I'm willing to consider suggestions for a new screen name. How about cbsnark? Or just plain old boring karen?
Or i could just use the latest blogger verification.
uhnlse underfed hippos never let spinach escape
Ideas? All will be considered.
not that I'll necessarily do anything with them, but I'll consider them. :-)
Me, too with the sick. I started sneezing last night (repeatedly and strongly), woke up with sniffles and scratchy throat. I'm on the zinc, and Echinacea, too. Weirdly, in the new post on Argh, Inc., someone else wrote in as Diane. So long as she stays there, I won't have to become someone else. And she didn't say anything objectionable that I had to disclaim, it was just a trifle disconcerting. And I'm pretty sure that it wasn't I, in pre-cold delirium, though I hadn't quite checked out for the day when she posted.
Andi - well, when my "Post a Comment" box comes up, I just put the mouse cursor on the lower right hand corner of the window and drag it to be larger. Systems vary, but I don't think mine has ever refused to do this, even when the window starts really small! It doesn't alter the font size or anything else, though.
And, Conscripted Cherry, if you want to see and comment on the logos and other ideas for the new place on Lori's blog, it's here. Also available, of course, are photos from the Glamour Geek and Mary show on Maui.
gbgbcb: Glamorous babes' geekiness brings cultured boys
ujqrf: uxoriousness jars quiet, reflective females
The best thing for colds is
A) get enough sleep in the first place so you aren't run down.
B) wash your hands frequently to keep other people's germs away
C) take multi vitamins and minerals to fill in the blanks
D) have lots of kids who get you sick a lot when they are young. By the time they are older, you are immune to everything.
My sincere condolences to all who are sick. Poor Babies. I refuse to get anything now. I am doing my best to sleep everything off. I have enough medical issues without a cold. I get a flu shot every year and I find that really does protect me from the bug. It is almost time for them to be given.
Brian I never knew that there was a difference in the spelling of whiskey. Thanks for pointing that out.
blue plsgqvm
Please leave several germs quaking, viruses masked.
kl - A) Enough sleep? Ha, i'd laugh but it hurts my head too much.
B) Yeah, I do that, but I teach preschool children, they like wipe their noses on your shirt, gross, but it's true.
C) Will they increase my bust?
D) Have the kids, not so immune to the stuff the little kids that are not mine bring into the dance studio...sigh, I think Bob just blew something up inside my head and no matter what I do, I can't sleep. I hate being sick.
Jen t,
A) Sleep is mostly wishful thinking in my house too.
B) I used to teach gymnastics to kids. I understand.
C) Only if you use softgels and dump them into your bra.
D) Eventually you will reap the rewards for all your exposure (not like that, geez) now.
So, I just got a new computer (at work - IT just switched over my stuff and took away the old one) with a wider display - a flatscreen imac, quite cool. Probably what will take the longest time to get used to is the mouse, which has a bunch more buttons on it. And it's silent, which is just wild.
I wiped down the old mouse with sanitizing gel, and should probably do the new one, too, as the IT guy had a cold as well. Except I seem to have mislain my sanitizing gel. Can you get more than one cold at a time?
c) Damn, I hope not!
I'm sorry there are so many people feeling ill - I wish us all speedy recoveries and devoted sickroom attendants!
efgav: Echinacea feels good against viruses
Me,
Just Plain Old Boring Karen is way too long. We'd have to abreviate it as JPOBK and even as an abreviation it's still as long as my whole name. Just stick with Me.
Dear ME ... just giving you a hard time. Don't change a hair for me, ME; not if you care for me, ME.
ccpbv: Crusie? Charming personality, Bob verifies.
jen-t and k.l.: I tried a double *snort* but the hacking cough from nearly choking on the cough drop almost killed me.
me: I kinda like uhnlse myself. Like saying Ilse with a cold.
Completely off topic but I had to share: there is a rumor going around work that the "entertainment" for our employee appreciation dinner will be an Elvis impersonator. And the only person I know who is really that into Elvis is refusing to go. And I'm thinking to myself, "Is it really worth it on the off chance that I'll win a waffle iron?"
nrxocp: No rolling xeroxes off cliffs, please.
hbmlxirl: Hoping bleeping management likes xylophones inside really loud.
Theresa wrote: BCB - I will get to your questions! I haven't forgotten.
LOL! I think it's more important to finish the dissertation. My questions/your answers can wait.
CC and CBELL -- Good to hear from both of you again.
Sorry everyone is sick. I'm sick of working, but I don't think zinc is going to help with that.
Back to it.
bw
Bryan: you must have read my mind, because that's exactly how I was planning on writing it. HA!
mcb: i know. ;-)
btuda: I was pronouncing it "unless" but your description is better.
Alas, I just gotta be me.
zpwdmcf Zimbabwe people wearing dirndls make Crusie faint
Me: Me is fun, even if it (you) lead(s) to occasional grammatical weirdness.
Another wacky thing on my computer is that it has a camera! I'm glad I threw away the first photo I took - I was saying "Who is that woman and why is she on my computer? WTH? OMG! I look hideously pale and sick!". And I had that total WTH look on my face, which I am interested to know is NOT a good look for me. I will strive to avoid it in company.
I'm going to go look for paper doilies. It's not like I'm getting anything done here, so I might as well.
ntnaucic: sorry. I told you I was low function today.
me: I like "unless" too. On the other hand, you will probably have far less typos trying to log into blogger as me, "me", you. Just be you. I mean, me ... Geez woman, you aren't planning to take over the world yourself, were you?
ftnsnb: Fred takes naps, snoring nightly. Busted.
Any time now, blogger.
pvatcdnr: Please vacate any tippled cubicles - do not resusitate (or Dept of Natural Resources).
But I have to ask ... does anyone else scroll through, see a comment headed me and think "I don't remember typing that."
No?
Me neither.
On another topic, I mentioned a while back an interview CNN did with Christina Dodd at National that I had seen. I found a contact email from her website and sent a brief note complimenting her on the interview, saying how well she represented the romance genre. I got a very nice reply from her today, clearly a personal response from someone who reads her own emails. I was really pleased and impressed that she took a moment to do so. Classy, you know?
lyfxdg: Listen you, forget Xavier; don't grovel.
diane: gotta know. Why paper doilies?
Thank Bob I don't have a camera on my computer. It would be in the way of my post-it collection. With my luck, I'd end up with a photo of me blowing my nose plastered all over the internet. Or worse.
DH came home the other day and told me that a friend of ours' wife was going to the hospital to have a procedure done. I asked what kind. He told me a DNR. After a momentary panic that they were going to bump the poor woman off (Do Not Resusitate) or send in the park rangers (Dept of Natural Resources) I remembered that acronyms were not his forte and figured out he meant a DNC. She's fine by the way, despite (or because of) the rangers.
hdisw: Happy dyslestics illustrate single words.
Me: Stay true to yourself, stay ME.
About those gel things, when I was a kid, I used to rip out the shoulder pads in my blazers and use them for bra padding. i know, i'm pathetic. I think the cold meds have me loopy, I'm staying stupid stuff left and right, right and left. Yeah, I think nyquil will be my friend tonight.
Poor Jen. Feel better sweetie. Take care of yourself. See you next week!!!
For anyone who cares (me!) Bob is giving an on-line workship through KOD (kiss of death on line chapter) in November. I for one plan on taking it. I've taken other things by Bob, and well, he's a GAM and well, I'm taking this course. If anyone wants the info, I'll forward it to you. the topic with be special forces stuff.
Off to go pick up the antibotic. Love Dr. Neighbors who decide the green stuff coming out of my nose is a secondary infection and they prescribe drugs.
(((((HUGS))))) and tissues all around. The toddies, zinc, and comfy pillows are on the way. (Virtually, of course, Sorry!)
FYI- those of you that have progressed to the sore/red nose stage . . . a dab or two of neosporin over the tender spots will help your nose heal quicker and peel less. (I know, you just keep blowing your nose, and wiping it off, but keep trying it a few times throughout the day, and before going to bed - it works.)
Shutting up now.
Feel better.
elfwyat - I'm sure there's a good one there, but I just can't think my way through it.
ME - Me is just fine. But, I also love cbsnark if, for some reason, you decide ME isn't good enough. Ya know, if we had a grammar checker it would go ballistic!
Cameras - You all remember I met DD#2 for a week of R&R in Seattle. She took a million pictures, sent them to me later. I wondered who the old hag cow was in a couple of them. Moooo.
Jen-T - Take some more nice chemicals and comment to us - you're even funnier when you're looped. Oh, we're supposed to go to your site and vote on something.
ndccpjo: Neanderthals Don't Collect Cow Pies. Just Order!
Gaterperson wrote: "Jen-T - Take some more nice chemicals and comment to us - you're even funnier when you're looped."
Not sure how to respond to that since thus far I've only taken non-drowsy form of sinus medicine. Then again, I think I've said a few bizzare things today....going to bed.
RobinS Do you want to meet Thursday night in NJ? We could meet in the conference lobby at 6pm then grab a bite to eat. Let me know here or email sopf101@yahoo.com
My cat is sneezing. I hope he didn't get the blogger flu.
All of you illin' CBs and loved ones, take care, try to rest, and know we're all pulling for you.
mcb said...
I mentioned a while back an interview CNN did with Christina Dodd at National that I had seen. I found a contact email from her website and sent a brief note complimenting her on the interview...I got a very nice reply from her today
Told you so. ;+) Love being able to say that.
My fix when I'm getting a cold is to take a fistful of vitamins - two multivits, a bunch of Vitamin C and several zinc. Ditto at the other end of the day, and the next morning. That seems to derail it about 99% of the time. Knock wood. The last time it hit me was New Year's Day. I'd spent the evening in the ER with my mother and was so exhausted when I got home it didn't even register that I was ailing. By the time I started coughing my head off the next day, it was too late. Gotta go get my flu shot, so at least I don't have to deal with that.
btuda, I've been thinking about getting an iBook, too. When they guy showed me the camera built into the display frame and said, "isn't that cool," I thought, "no," and started trying to figure out how I could block it without screwing anything up. Really, I work from home so I don't have to be presentable. Why would I want anyone chatting with me to see me looking as strange as I often do??? Of course, that feature is designed for the kiddies, but it makes my blood run cold, thinking of what pics of me could end up online. Yikes.
It's amazing how much different our images of ourselves can be from what a camera captures. Yes, I've got a story. When I was going through the training to be certified as a course developer, everyone had to take one "platform" class. In that we had to do presentations before the group, from short to several minutes, and they were videotaped. They gave us each our tape at the end of the class, but I didn't get around to looking at mine for quite a while.
So, one day I had reserved a conference room for a committee meeting. The room was free the hour before, so I grabbed my tape and went early. I started the tape playing, ready to be horrified. But they'd given me the wrong tape. It was an Asian woman doing the presentations. The guy I was meeting with came in while I was watching. He asked who the Chinese woman was. LOL! I was just about to say I had no idea, when I realized that Chinese/Asian woman was wearing my very distinctive clothes. OMG! It was me. I've been mistaken for other races before, but I figured the person doing the mistaking was on drugs. But there I was, and even I thought I looked Chinese. /;+)))) Weird.
veakbvm (blue)
Very evil authors kindled Bob's violent mayhem.
A camera on the computer has never interested me. I suppose it could be handy for business, video conferencing and such, but I always thought the beauty of internet communication is that its relatively unintrusive. Unlike a phone that nags at you until you or they give up, the computer just tells you someone's there and waits patiently until you feel like dealing with it. And yet its immediate at the same time.
You put a camera up and it becomes intrusive. Can't answer your IMs in your jammies. Okay, I realize there's probably an off option, but the lens is still there. I would probably have to find a way to cover it up.
But isn't it interesting that you can look at yourself in the mirror and it doesn't bother you, but a photograph does?
***BUSINESS***
Oh, btw, p.o. box is working just fine. Will email those I received tomorrow. Thanks to all. This is an amazing group we have. Here's to a future of TOTW!
fznzqt. gesundheit, blogger.
All you CBs, Bob and Jenny get rid of this terrrible bug. jen-t you need to get better before New Jersey as do him and her. Lots of good medical solutions offered here.
Can't stand to have my picture taken. The only good pictures taken of me where for my wedding and when I graduated from university in 1989. So don't ever expect to see my happy little face on your computer screen any time soon. /.D
8 more sleeps. YAHOO!
red auishkf
As usual I surely have killer friends.
BUSINESS:
More logo samples up!
Also, it's time for some more polls. We need to decide on the format of our name:
Cherrybombs
CherryBombs
Cherry Bombs
Anyone think of any other permutations before I make the poll???
And we need suggestions for a tagline. Bryan suggested:
"Where everybody knows your name (or at least the alias you're using at the time)"
for the blog.
So we need suggestions for that, too.
And...are we:
The CB Bar & Grill
The CherryBomb Bar & Grill
CB Bar & Grill
CherryBomb Bar & Grill
(with the CherryBomb part being determined by the name poll)
Can anyone think of anything else we need to decide right now? I want to get going on the blog, and I'm going to need answers first.
I'll wait until Thursday Noonish, PST, for further suggestions for any of these polls. Then I'll make the polls and put them up for voting.
Thanks!
MORE BUSINESS:
Oh, and I need everyone who volunteered to be a poster to email me [zlamarr @ gmail . com without spaces] with their chosen ID and password, so I can set up accounts. Once that's done, you can go in and change the password if you like.
Those who don't want to write posts, just read and comment, don't need to have accounts. For them it will work just like it does here.
I think that's it. ;+)
I got so distracted last night by something shiny that I forgot to tell you all: I got a postcard in the mail from G-G and Mary yesterday! Jen, you'll be happy to hear they have not encountereed any sharks, but -- and this part was a little blurred -- it seems there is no shortage of wildlife. Mary says they have been ogling the sea turtles and G-G nearly got run over by some HSDs in the ocean. Or was it the other way around?
I miss chatting with them and hope they're feeling talkative when they return. Mary, snarky lady that she is, signed the card "Mary, a.k.a. Mary" -- LOL!
Speaking of which, I wonder how the mailman figured out I was BCB? Not everyone seems to recognize the abbreviation and some people even need it spelled out...
bw
dumluo: apparently blogger does not appreciate Hawaiian festivities
BCB - I'm so jealous, yet once again. This is twice in a 24 hour period I'm jealous of you, you &%(*@! Geez, you got a post card from Mary and GG, I want a post card! I miss them so much! It's kind of not the same here in the basement without them you know! So glad that have not had a shark encounter, I have been worried about that.
BCB wrote: "Speaking of which, I wonder how the mailman figured out I was BCB? Not everyone seems to recognize the abbreviation and some people even need it spelled out..."
Trust me, everyone knows who you are, you are kind of unforgetable.
Unforgettable? What, like a bad case of the blogger flu?
Thanks. I feel so special.
bw
BCB - I'd like to forget the blogger flu, thank you very much. you on the other hand, well, I think I'll keep you around. The unforgettable part is a good thing. And you should feel special. I'm stomping my feet...I WANT A POST CARD!
Jen, Jen, Jen. [shakes head sadly] Leave it to you to do the one thing that will get you kicked off this blog. Haven't we talked about that whole foot stomping thing?
Did it at least clear your sinuses? It's got to be good for something...
You all have fun today while I'm working. It's such beautiful weather here today, maybe the boss will take the afternoon off and I can come play.
bw
Zaza said ... And we need suggestions for a tagline.
BCB suggested something, though I can't recall the exact wording. Something about being able to think for yourself.
It might be too long for a tagline but what about
Cherrybombs - We may all look sweet and delicious, but watch out, we're explosive!
BUSINESS
Maybe OH can post the list of "you know you're a CB when" over on Lori's site, there might be a great tagline buried in that fun. I think that's where BCB's thinking for ourselves comment was.
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Tagline idea:
The good, the bad, and the snarky.
iamgpj i am good per Jenny
Hope all those that were sick are feeling better today.
BUSINESS:
I updated the blog.
I posted the taglines I had collected (including BCB's) and the newest logo samples.
Let me know what I screwed up on (or missed, etc.)
CMS & ME:I'll get your tags up in a sec...
CherryBomb Ideas
Sorry link didn't work again.
I'm befuddled. It ALWAYS works in preview. I check.
Click on my name, kay?
Do we have a CB dictionary? If not, I'll wade through almost ten months of comments and compile one. I want to add
Althea to the list - a verb - to hide naked in the bed of a healthy virile bed of a man who may or may not be committed to another woman
CMS: I'd check with OH first. I think she had started putting something together, but she could probably use a hand now that she is in school.
Lori said: 'I posted the taglines I had collected (including BCB's) and the newest logo samples.'
I think I may need new computer glasses. I read that, not once, but twice, as '... the tagines I had collected...', and immediately thought, 'How interesting! This lady has a collection of beautiful North African ceramic cooking utensils!'
I shall not now be able to remove the picture of a tagine from my mind when I read 'tagline'.
:-)
I loved logo #41. All the logo ideas are great, but I think some of them are better on T-shirts or mugs than for the official logo. Everyone get over there and take a look. And the idea of putting Lori's site on the favorites list is the best idea ever. It always works and I never have to search for the link.
K.L. said...
I loved logo #41
#41 is good. I think my new favorite though is #30. Its got everything but it's also clean and not too girly. And I like the blocked aspect of the text also. I can see it for the main logo, and it would also break down to different elements for other uses ... just the text, the shovel, the cherry, the bomb.
zaza: going back to cafe press items, since we all use the computer for one thing or another (this here blog, writing The Great American Novel), are mouse pads available for logo-ing?
rllcc Robert's literature levitates, Cherries chanted
or Austtralian Novel...or British Novel....Canadian Novel? Sorry, didn't mean to leave anyone out.
Btuda: doesn't everyone need paper doilies? Actually, I don't use them at home, but we do for church receptions, and we're having a big one in a couple of weeks.
50 years ago this spring, the first woman to be ordained in my denomination was made a minister of word and sacrament at my church. She's coming in mid-October and, we hope, people from all over CNY will be coming, too.
So, doilies on the platters of cookies and tea sandwiches seem in order.
Sort of pitiful that it took over 1900 years to get to that point, but it'd also be bad to forget how far we've come in a relatively short time.
Me: and German Novel, if Cologne Grrl is lurking out there!
Last I looked though, we had no non-North American folk on our map.
lpyuextn: little platters yearn unrequitedly, experiencing tacky napkins (I used the e & x together, because I can't manage to be both topical and complete)
Jen & bcb,
I just want to remind you that I got a phone call from Maui.
All,
The tagline I put up on the temp blog was just that, temporary. I couldn't remember if we had talked about it so I made one up. The default was something like "Just another WordPress Blog". That ain't us.
all of you sick CBs, Poor Babies and hope you feel better. just, you know, stand over there please. this is not a good time to get sick at all, which means i may have to miss open mic so i can get some sleep.
i have all of the "you know your a CB..." so i will email that to lori to post on the blog.
JJ: I WANT DETAILS!!! about Bob's workshop, i mean.
MCB: i'm sending the cash in friday or saturday because i have to wait to get into town as the post office on campus is never opened. i mean, never. uh...your gonna send me the PO box address again, right?
and CC, we would never leave you.
tagline: Where Shovels Are Offered
or maybe: Where Snark is Demanded
What is with this tiny comment box? I've had the blogger flu too but it was at it's worst either last week or the week before. I use AirBorne. It really decreases the length and severity of my URIs. I get them alot unfortunately. CMS yes to Thurs meeting and dinner. Will also email you.
The little window had no verification. Now I have our normal window back.
Hope everyone is feeling better.
KI and MCB reported that they liked logo # 41, but I don't see a #41. However, some numbers are repeated, did you just count them yourselves? Or is my computer keeping some back from me?
taglines - I'd say shorten the "where everybody knows your name,..." to "where everybody knows your alias"
Tagline idea: Have shovel, will travel
bryan: I must have missed this at the meeting somewhere, but do we have directions to the temp blog with the temp tagline?
diane: doilies always go with cookies. But then what doesn't go with cookies? I remember when I was little all the little old ladies in church wore them on their heads. I have no idea why. Maybe it was an "old country" thing.
One of the last of my great aunts (sounds like Last of the Mohicans, doesn't it?) knitted me a table cloth for my wedding a few years ago. It is gorgeous . It looks like a giant doilie. I'm scared to death to use it though, especially considering the DH and DSS have never really been around anything that is THAT WHICH SHALL NOT BE TOUCHED (cue beam from heaven and "aaaaaaaaa" from choir). Yes, I know. Murphy was an optimist.
marcia in ok: I like that tagline too.
klbfkdb: so not touching fkdb
lyiyoto: new age yodeling
btuda,
Not yet. I just started getting notifications that ZaZa has started setting up the author accounts and I know at least one needs to be changed. As soon as she's got that sorted out, we'll give the directions.
DJR: We were going by Lori's list at http://cherrybombideas.blogspot.com. #41 is the top one. Just keep scrolling down. And remember they are not necessarily in order.
OH: will send you an email with the address.
All, at last count we had donations in from 12 CBs including both PayPals and the first p.o. box run. Considering we started collecting less than a week ago that ain't too shabby. We're doing quite nicely towards reimbursing Zaza for the web package and myself for the p.o. box. There should be a small nest egg left over should we have a need and if not we can kick around ideas.
Zaza - did you get my email?