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Tuesday, October 31, 2006

SHE WROTE: About Those Rats . . .

Two years ago, give or take several months, I wrote an essay called Rats With Islands: How to Survive Your Publishing Career (http://www.jennycrusie.com/essays/ratswithislands.php) and in it I said this about the collaboration:


"Last year, in the midst of a major burn-out, I started collaborating on a book with a guy. Nobody thought it was going to work because there's this impression floating around that I am controlling and opinionated (tsk) and because Conventional Wisdom says that collaborations that are not hidden behind a single pseudonym sell 60% of a book written under one of the author's solo names. (CW also says that you never tell anybody that CW says the book will only sell 60%, which pretty much tells you how tight CW and I are.) The thing was, though, this was a really good collaboration and the book it produced was not only exciting to write but great to read (IMHO). So now Reality and I are facing off, but it's okay because I have an island. On this island, people look at a book with a male and female writer listed on the cover and think, “Wow, both genders' points of view, gotta have it.” On this island, the word of mouth is terrific and the book sells 110% of what a solo author book would sell. On this island, editors all over New York read it, see the sales, and grab their assistants, saying, “Get me a male/female collaboration, stat!”


I am mentioning this because of two things:

Don't Look Down sold better in hardcover than my last book, BET ME (which did damn well, thank you).

And this appeared yesterday as a press release announcing a multi-book sale:
"Janet Evanovich and Stephen J. Cannell's new hardcover adventure series, in a major deal, in a two-book deal, to Jamie Raab at Warner, by Robert Gottlieb at Trident Media Group (NA)."

It is, of course, possible that the participants in the afore-mentioned deal, both very fine authors, have no knowledge of the Crusie-Mayer collaboration and came up with idea entirely on their own, but we did spend three weeks on the NYT list and Ms. Evanovich and I do share an editor at SMP, so I'm thinking they probably noticed us. Which means I called it on the nose two years ago. Which doesn't happen too damn often in publishing.

You may bask in my wisdom now.

(Oh, come on, after all I went through convincing people I was right about this two years ago, including, yes, BOB, I deserve a little moment of glow here.)

87 Comments:

At 31/10/06 6:46 PM, glamour-geek said...

Of course you were right, Jenny! You know very well that the wise are never heeded by the misguided masses. :)

And I liked that rats essay a lot when I read it, so there.

 
At 31/10/06 7:07 PM, Cary said...

Great glow, Jenny! And I definitely remember the essay. Now, can you help me pick the winners at the derby?

 
At 31/10/06 7:11 PM, K.L. said...

We CBs are smart cookies. We know who to idolize. Of course we knew that DLD would be fabulous. Congratulations on everything Jenny (and Bob). May you both have many successful years of being the bickersons.

 
At 31/10/06 7:47 PM, Lynn said...

Forget the little glow, take an entire bonfire and make some smores. Then dance gleefully around it yelling "I told you so!" Don't worry, it's Halloween, people expect that kind of behavior today.

What were you doing listening to CW anyway? Please.

 
At 31/10/06 7:47 PM, bon cheri bomb said...

Wow, Jenny. Great essay. That first little part with its dose of reality was not much fun to read (so I'm going to ignore it), but now I want to be a rat when I grow up.

Go ahead and bask in the glow. You've earned it. Just don't set the place on fire, ok? We're still recovering from that hotel incident back in July.

And while I'm sure all of us CBs wish the best for Ms. E and Mr. C and their collaboration, well, they don't have CBs running around the place, do they? Bless their hearts.

Just one question, though: why do you say "controlling and opinionated" like that's a bad thing?


Pssst, Bryan: Did you know that, all this time, Jenny has been lusting for her own cabana boys?

bw

 
At 31/10/06 7:56 PM, Lou said...

gg, in her infinite wisdom, sez:
Of course you were right, Jenny! You know very well that the wise are never heeded by the misguided masses. **SNORT**
Well said, gg.

Yep, Jenny, you definitely deserve a bonfire and a song consisting of, "I TOLD YOU SO..." Bask in the glow, it's been well earned.

Hey Jenny, book done yet??

 
At 31/10/06 7:57 PM, Jen-t said...

Not a moment Jenny, but a whole freaking lifetime of glow! My glow in the dark fingernails are raised in the air and waving frantically for you and yes, Bob too.

And to Lori - Thank you. You made my night.

Back to answering the doorbell as children try and frighten me.

 
At 31/10/06 7:59 PM, K.L. said...

Maybe Jen T. will have to loan Bryan out to Jenny for a while. Hey Bryan, are you any good at peeling grapes while you defend our beloved Cherry from big menacing birds peeing down their legs?

 
At 31/10/06 8:09 PM, Louis said...

You go girl!!!

Lets give Bob a wee bit of go Bob!

I've got to find a polish cloth for those halos.

"And the great shall lead the followers"

fygkgqg...red

don't want to try this one

 
At 31/10/06 8:23 PM, GatorPerson said...

Ah 1, ah 2, ah 3, ah 4, altogether now: Glow, little Glow Worm, glitter, glitter, ....etc.

Go, Jenny!!! Besides, Einstein didn't use CW, either. You and Einstein, one of a pair!

bvddam: Naw, too obvious!

 
At 31/10/06 8:27 PM, Lisa said...

Great essay, Jenny, and congrats on the figures for DLD. Boy, could I use an island with some cabana boys right about now. Now there's a reason to keep swimming!

You can consider me basking in your infinite wisdom.

 
At 31/10/06 8:28 PM, Anonymous said...

Oh, please. You deserve TWO FREAKIN WONDERFUL HOURS OF GLOW!!!

My Irish granny used to say "I'd rather be right than rich."

Go granny. And Jenny. :-)

Chelle

 
At 31/10/06 8:28 PM, inkgrrl said...

Bask away, babe. You rock on with your bad self!

 
At 31/10/06 9:23 PM, Anonymous said...

Loved that article.
GLOW ON!
rg

 
At 31/10/06 9:24 PM, Shoshana said...

Well, they're not stupid Jennie. They probably saw your sold numbers, and decided to hitch on your star.

Also, would colloboration book sell better because you'll be combining two fan base? Especially if it's M/F pairing.

Love, love, love your books!

 
At 31/10/06 9:26 PM, Shoshana said...

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At 31/10/06 9:29 PM, McB said...

Go Jenny! Throw another log on the fire and enjoy that glow.

Anyway, I've never paid too much attention to CW either. Who wants to be conventionally wise when you can be originally brilliant?

Jenny said: The thing was, though, this was a really good collaboration and the book it produced was not only exciting to write but great to read (IMHO).

IONSHO too.

And I think we CBs will bask right along side of you since clearly we knew a thing or two as well.

Huh.

 
At 31/10/06 9:39 PM, Wendy Roberts said...

You called it right, Jenny. In this biz few can say the same so mucho kudos to you!
Don't mind me *shuffle shuffle* I'm just getting closer hoping some of your wisdom rubs off :)

Wendy, Canuk Cherry

 
At 31/10/06 9:45 PM, Jill said...

You are indeed a GAW and a perfect match for the GAM.
Go with the Glow.

 
At 31/10/06 9:48 PM, me said...

Jenny, of course you were right. we knew it all along. what were they thinking? you are a genius and I bow in your presence.
You too, Bob.
And Hot Toy was fabulous!

 
At 31/10/06 10:24 PM, Christina said...

Wendy--I remember shelving your book when I used to work at bookstores. The title and cover intrigued me, but I was working so I couldn't read it at the time.

I knew your name sounded familiar to me...

 
At 31/10/06 11:13 PM, dee said...

The Cherry wants a moment of "glow"?
What The Cherry wants, The Cherry gets. We're bowing to your glow-ness right now. And we're trying, really, to bask in your wisdom, too. Give me a minute to get over the shock of knowing that you had to convince the GAM... Ok, over it. Back to basking and watching you glow!

Oh, and I just remembered... I saw the cutest things at 7-11 yesterday morning... CherryBomb candies. They were so very cute! I wish I'd have seen them before NJ. Now I'm going to have to buy them and hope for another conference in my area soon. Any suggestions?

 
At 1/11/06 12:08 AM, amc said...

Jenny--of course you're right. We're basking, we're basking.....


On a different subject, I need some CB help. My teen-age daughter has fibromaylgia, and we seem to have hit the end of available medical help in our area. I need the name of a good pediatric rheumatologist. We live in southeast Minnesota. Anywhere we can drive to, we'll go. The easiest places for us to go are the Twin Cities, or La Crosse, WI, or other towns in driving distance of Rochester, MN. We have family in Kansas City, and near Omaha and Lincoln, who we could stay with, so we'd go there. We'll be in San Antonio over Christmas.

The Mayo Clinic rheumatology department (MN, I don't know about FL or AZ)is not currently seeing fibromyalgia patients at all. I don't know when that will change, but I seriously doubt it will be in time to help us out.

Our family doctor seems to have hit the end of medications he feels he can prescribe for an adolescent. (We're starting to get into the stronger pain meds, and I think he just doesn't feel like he knows enough about how they act in teenagers.) We have gotten a lot of good information from Mayo's Fibromyalgia Clinic (they only do diagnosis and education, they don't see patients on an ongoing basis) about lifestyle changes she can start to make, but I really feel she needs to medications to help her out; otherwise, those changes will be even more difficult.

The main symptoms of fibro are chronic muscle pain (imagine if you had the muscle aches of a really bad case of the flu all the time), disturbed sleep, and fatigue, with a long list of other possible symptoms that can also occur. The research I've read says that a lot of adolescents who get it, will get over it (unlike adults--most don't). So there's a lot of hope that she will recover. She just needs some help to do it.

Lori--you made my night, too. Thanks!

 
At 1/11/06 12:11 AM, glamour-geek said...

amc: can't offer any recommendations, but do offer my sympathy to you and DD. I had chronic headaches for about 15 years due to muscle problems and anything chronic is Not Fun. Hugs to both of you and I hope you find a specialist who can give her lots of help and support!

Ok, I'm probably a horrible person for being so amused by this (below, not amc's DD's problems above. Those aren't funny at all), but so be it. I am.

I've just gotten back in touch with some folks (who I liked a lot) from my old job that I quit in April and one told me that the VP Marketing I worked for, who was--along with the CEO--the bane of my existence, left 2-1/2 months after I did. Well, he also started 2-1/2 months after I did, so we each lasted 8-1/2 months at that company. And we were the 5th or 6th generation of marketing staff that company has had in 4-5 years.

I'm still laughing and I heard about this in the early afternoon. Hilarious!

See, patience has its own rewards. You wait long enough and you can get a few hours' laughter out of those who made your life miserable.

Tee hee, tee hee!

Oh, I'm just a horrible person. But really, this is hilarious to me!

Bad, bad geek. Naughty geek.

Bwahahahahaha!

:)

 
At 1/11/06 12:21 AM, Erica said...

Jenny said : You may bask in my wisdom now.

*basking* :D

 
At 1/11/06 1:29 AM, Scope Dope Cherrybomb said...

Got to go do NaNo now but wanted to say Hi and Bye. Please don't get too long winded while I am gone or I won't ever be able to catch up.

Jenny obviously we have always known you were wise and wonderful but you may bask in the glow. /,D

ifeztyg I finally enjoyed Zaza's truly yeccy gift.

 
At 1/11/06 1:38 AM, talpianna said...

Reverting to an earlier subject, quite OT here:

There was a story on tonight's local news about whether a realtor is obligated to reveal whether a murder or other tragedy has taken place in a house she's selling. Seems she has, by the standards of the profession, an obligation NOT TO!!!! This would constitute unfairly prejudicial information--you know, like revealing in a murder trial that that the defendent has previously been convicted of six identical crimes!

The realtor's suggestion--do research before you buy. Start by asking the neighbors, otherwise look up the history of the town in newspapers.

egujg -- Evil ghosts uglify Jenny's garage.

 
At 1/11/06 1:39 AM, amc said...

G-G...thank you for the support. And I'd be laughing at that, too.

SDCB...I don't think we know how NOT to be long-winded. Just jump in when you get back. I think I'm going to try nanowrimo too...I can't drive, but at least I can type!

 
At 1/11/06 1:50 AM, Nanaimo G said...

Jenny you have been glowing for me from the first book of yours I read.
YOU ARE WONDERFUL YOU ARE FANTASTIC YOU MAKE MY DAY.
Enjoy enjoy.

 
At 1/11/06 8:16 AM, Jen-t said...

Jenny Crusie....the wise one....let us bask in her wisdom.....

AMC - hope you and DD feel better soon.

Hockey update for those that care about the insanity that I call my life....remember DD15 got cut from the Edge grils travel team this year. Then they invited her to come to practices, then they asked he to be an alternate on the team. When this happened, she had to quit dance. Well, it looks like her hard work and dedication has paid off, the coach has asked her to come on full time. They gave her a new hockey bag and ordered her a uniform. This is good for DD15 and we are proud. But...this means we are on the road with this child every other weekend almost because in order to find competitive games for the girls, we have to go a lot further than the boys. The new team she's on plays in SOUTHERN ONTARIO LEAGUE. Doe you know where Ontario is? You guessed it...CANADA! Sheese, we spend enough time up there, eh? Maybe it's time to apply for duel citizianship.

Thank god this weekend everyone is home! We have seven games, but they are all home!

 
At 1/11/06 8:19 AM, Jen-t said...

Oh Good lucke to the NaNo writers! I'm not doing it this year, but I've done it in years past. Its a lot of fun.

This month I'm taking Bob's course on Special Ops at the kiss of death on line chapter. It starts today. yeah me.

Okay, off to teach cute little ones the art of dance....and bask in Jenny's wisdom....

 
At 1/11/06 8:27 AM, dee said...

amc- I don't know a lot about fibro, but I know someone that does. My friend Autumn has it, and she has a GREAT website. She's a writer, and a blogger. I met her in Charlotte when I went to see Joshilyn Jackson. Autumn is one of the bravest people I know. She has a link on her site for "Health" and she chronicles her fibro trials. I'm sure you have other support around, but it never hurts to meet other people that are going through the same thing.
YOu can check out her site at
www.perfectiononacurve.com
I'm sending your daughter, and your entire family, LOTS of (((((hugs))))).

Jen-T - I think the dual citizenship thing is a good idea. Then you can practice saying neat words, like "out" and "about". Just ask CMS. ;>)

G-G, I don't think you're bad at all. Personally, I think it's quite poetic. Keep on smiling!

As with many of you, I'm doing NaNo. So, if you don't see me around here, just know that I'm thinking about you. Also, I know that every word I type here is a word that is not counting towards my 1667 per day that I'll need to complete NaNo. Needless to say, words will be few here, but thoughts will be many.

 
At 1/11/06 8:38 AM, bon cheri bomb said...

Wow Jen! Huge congrats to your DD, I know how much that means to her -- glad her hard work paid off. She must get that from her mom.

I'm taking Bob's online course, too, and gee, I have a funny feeling there will be a bit of homework involved. So... if I'm a little scarce around here you'll know it's because Bob is keeping me busy. [grin]

Hope everyone had a safe Halloween. After watching the morning news, I sent a text message to both my college-aged kids, asking them to contact me as soon as they regain consci-- um, wake up, letting me know they have not been shot, arrested or otherwise harmed. Sigh.

Makes me miss the days I could load them up in the car and drive them to Canada for a litte good clean fun.

Not that I ever did that. Drive them to Canada. But I could have. Probably should have.

Are islands in Canada?

bw

 
At 1/11/06 9:05 AM, bon cheri bomb said...

Well, that's interesting. Both kids have already replied.

DD: Alive and well. What did you think?

DS: On the way to class. What do you want?

Me: Nothing. Just asking.

bw

 
At 1/11/06 9:15 AM, McB said...

Jen - congrats to DD!

G-G: No you are not a bad person; or at least if you are, then I am too. My favorite saying? The mills of God grind slowly, but they grind exceedingly fine.

AMC - ((hugs)) for DD; hope you find the help she needs soon.

 
At 1/11/06 9:28 AM, btuda said...

Carryover from previous blog:

bcb said: Although I tend to embellish and make up stuff.

My BF always accussed me of that when we were in roommates in college. Oh, it would start innocently enough and then the BS gene would kick in ...

mary said: Don't drink and blog.

Hey, Lori! I think we got another t-shirt idea.

Jenny: You Glow, girl!

amc: ((hugs)) to you and your family. Have you tried checking with support networks? I personally take most things on-line with a grain of salt, but maybe some one can share some info that will help. We did that when my sister was (finally) diagnosed with lupus. It was really hard to find info locally that would relate to her as she was 18 at the time. Most patients are a bit older. Through the support network she was able to find a mix of doctors, etc that worked for her.

vrxehr: Very red xeroxes eerily hang rosily

judomef: Judo makes exercise fun. (I'm only assuming here.)

 
At 1/11/06 9:40 AM, Mary Stella said...

Congratulations, Jenny & Bob, for the good sales for DLD. You deserve them because the book rocks.

I always love it when someone can look in the eyes of Conventional Wisdom and let loose a big, "nyah nyah nyah."

 
At 1/11/06 10:28 AM, btuda said...

Funny Halloween story: the house I am renting has a very small front porch. I think it is 3 ft x 3 ft, just about the width of the storm door. When you open the door, there is a flower bed immediately to the left filled with the remains of several hostases (hostasi? anywho, more than one hostas). I'd have to say we ended up fishing out about 70% of our eager little trick or treaters out of the flowerbed. There were so excited about getting more candy that they'd rush the door and fall off the porch. It was really pretty funny. That, and the little pirate that determined to save me from the dead hostas by whacking it to death with his sword.

I love Halloween.

 
At 1/11/06 10:35 AM, Lily said...

You both deserve a little glow, here.

 
At 1/11/06 11:05 AM, gin said...

AMC: Check with the Shriners. They provide medical care for a number of pediatric conditions, not just the burns you may associate with them. I have a rare genetic metabolic disorder that affects bone growth, and a Shriners hospital in the midwest (Chicago?) has the pre-eminent expert in the condition, and I believe they have similar experts in assorted other chronic conditions, things that require specialization and that are way beyond a GP's expertise, like my condition is. I also believe that they will provide (or help with) the transportation, if you need to go a distance. For kids with my condition, the patients (and at least one parent) go to the Shriners hospital for several days while assorted tests are done, and treatments are tested, and so on, and then they're released to a local doctor for maintenance, and return a year (maybe less) later for follow-up, until they're adults.

And now I'll go back to basking. Really great news about the collaboration and the downfall of CW.

 
At 1/11/06 11:53 AM, Diane said...

Huh. Well, I have to say that most of the collaborations I've read (naming no names) seem to be one famous author lending her name to a less-well-known friend, or essentially franchising herself, so it's not surprising they're usually not as successful. Richly-deserved poor sales (I only read a few where I like BOTH authors, now). But the dynamic of this partnership was clearly very different, with each providing important gifts, knives, snark and challenging the other to write the best book possible.

The only other collaboration I remember enjoying (that wrote under two names; Emma Lathan was the name for a pair of women who wrote really good mysteries) was the Caroline Stevermer and Patricia C. Wrede effort that was/ is the product of a "letters game", and a whole lot of fun, but did not require the close working conditions of Jenny and Bob's oeuvre.

AMC - I'm so sorry about your daughter's fibromyalgia - that's a really challenging condition. I have a friend who has the adult version - I hope your DD grows out of it. Best wishes and prayers to both of you.

fjuuus - when the accent is on the juice, not the fruit that produced it.

 
At 1/11/06 11:53 AM, Deb said...

I’m not surprised to hear of the sales success of DLD, nor the success of your collaboration. You both deserve to bask & glow.

There are a couple of reasons why the collaboration works, namely Jenny & Bob. I think it’s going to be difficult for Evanovich & Cannell (and any others) to measure up. You’ve set a rather high standard. Wasn’t it Bob’s call that you both have the same voice? That isn’t easily replicated. Also, you both have busted your backsides on not only the books, but promotions, the lengthy tour & stock signings, the speaking engagements, etc. How many writers have done as much, or are willing to?

Yeah, a very high standard indeed.

 
At 1/11/06 12:08 PM, dee said...

What deb said!
Thinking about this all night, and talking with my Shane about it this morning, it really hit me what you guys have done. I mean, you created your own genre! How cool is that? You managed to combine romance and adventure, kisses and guns, love and death, in a way that had women and men alike hanging on every word. I still can't believe how fast my husband flew through the book, and how much praise he lavished on both of you. I mean, he actually read the thing cover to cover, in one weekend. For someone that rarely has time for anything besides textbooks or programming languages, he actually MADE time to read DLD. And he ENJOYED it.
If that's not some sort of barometer for your glow meter, I really don't know what it.
Yes, others will try to copy what you've accomplished. They will try. And that's fine, because we know the truth...
imitation is the finest form of flattery.

 
At 1/11/06 12:12 PM, marcia in ok said...

Jenny, Basking in your wisdom and DAMN STRAIGHT you deserve time to glow.

Santa Baby was hilarious. I have several pages already dog-eared with wonderful lines. (Which I'll refrain from detailing til other CBs catch up.) But, Pop-Tarts, arcing toys and music, bitch Barbies. What's not to LOVE!

amc - thoughts and prayers for you and DD are coming your way. I'll be thinking of you both.

Gotta work now. It is EOM closing time.

 
At 1/11/06 12:28 PM, McB said...

Evanovich & Cannell: The first I know can write a danged fine book; I'm not so fond of the work she lends her name to, but that's a matter of personal taste, I think. The second entertained me with some fun tv series over the years, but I have no idea if he can write a book.

Who knows, it may work in which case we all benefit.

But the thing is, Bob and Jenny make it look easy. Okay we here on the blog know better, that it was a lot of hard work on both parts with many threats of flying keyboards. A writing partnership is no place for wimps. But that doesn't show in the finished product. Should be interesting to see if E and C can tough it out. I hope so, because as I said we will all benefit.

Re Hot Toy, I could see Bob's influence. The bit about seeing where Trudy was looking struck me as a Bobism.

 
At 1/11/06 12:48 PM, dee said...

amc, head over to my blog and leave me your e-mail address. Or, if you decide to contact Autumn, let her know that I sent you over. I've already sent her an e-mail this morning and told her about your daughter. I have no doubt that she'll be more than willing to share her experiences. I hope that's ok, and I didn't jump the gun or anything. Probably, I should have asked before I mentioned anything to her, but sometimes I just leap before looking (or, in this case, asking). I'm sure none of the rest of you CBs have ever done anything like that before, right? Right?
Yeah, whatever. ;>)

 
At 1/11/06 1:17 PM, me said...

marica: OMG the song did arc, didn't it? I just realized that now that you said it.

I continue to be in awe of Jenny...

 
At 1/11/06 1:18 PM, me said...

oops meant Marcia there....and I can't even blame my nails on that. sorry.

 
At 1/11/06 1:37 PM, btuda said...

kyra: I replied to your post on my blog, but here it is anyway. I'm an IU grad living dangerously deep in the heart of Boilermaker country. By dangerously, I mean I cut the tags of my mattresses and everything. Sigh. Busted. I'm a real mild child.

 
At 1/11/06 1:53 PM, Bryan said...

Any moonlighting I do on Jenny's island needs to be cleared through Jen-t first. My grape peeling is going to be a little slower than normal, though. I think I broke my thumb yesterday. I can barely move it today.

 
At 1/11/06 2:01 PM, dee said...

(((((bryan)))))
Rest that thumb, you'll need it to finish typing Gabby's story. I have a feeling she'll be pretty ticked if you aren't able to tell it in her way, in her time.

 
At 1/11/06 2:03 PM, Diane said...

Bryan - so sorry about your thumb! Fortunately, thumbs are not much required for the keyboard (except on the spacebar, and that can be operated by either, though I use both and I have no idea when I use which or why and don't propose to figure it out). I'm sure that if you had wanted us to know how you hurt yourself, you would have told us, so we are now free to speculate wildly about bizarre Halloween accidents.

Meantime - I hope it's not broken, and that it feels better and moves freely soon!

I remember the island thing from Jenny's original comments - this is not the tropical type with cabanas, but just the little platform the rats swim to when being examined by scientists. So you might want to wait before volunteering for duty...

zbsporui: an exotic fungal delicacy

 
At 1/11/06 2:48 PM, Cherry Magic Sheryl said...

(((Bryan))) I hope you had as good a time breaking your thumb as we are speculating. Ice it and get better.

 
At 1/11/06 2:51 PM, glamour-geek said...

bryan: if you really think it's broken, go get it checked and set properly so that it heals correctly. Very Important to heal correctly.

Conjecture on how bryan broke his thumb, part 1 (feel free to jump in and sing along!): Well, it all started when he decided to really decorate the house for Halloween. First he put up orange bat-shaped lights on the eaves. Then he put up that cobwebby stuff. But it wasn't enough. So he decided to remake the outside of his home into a gothic haunted house. While he was on the roof, putting in the widow's walk, he crunched his thumb, tumbled off the roof, and landed on the pavers out front, crunching his thumb again on the way down.

Or not. :)

btuda: loved your halloween story. Especially being protected from the hostas. So cute.

diane sez: Caroline Stevermer and Patricia C. Wrede effort that was/ is the product of a "letters game", and a whole lot of fun

Love, love, love this book. It's Sorcery and Cecilia. I love what they did to collaborate on it and that it grew out of a game, plus it's funny as all get out.

Happy November! No, I'm not particularly fond of fall and winter but for some bizarre reason (maybe 10 hours of sleep helped?), I am quite cheerful and optimistic today. Go figure.

 
At 1/11/06 3:03 PM, McB said...

G-g said...

Conjecture on how bryan broke his thumb, part 1 (feel free to jump in and sing along!): Well, it all started when he decided to really decorate the house for Halloween. First he put up orange bat-shaped lights on the eaves. Then he put up that cobwebby stuff. But it wasn't enough. So he decided to remake the outside of his home into a gothic haunted house. While he was on the roof, putting in the widow's walk, he crunched his thumb, tumbled off the roof, and landed on the pavers out front, crunching his thumb again on the way down.

part 2. Quite unfortunately as he slid over the edge, Bryan grabbed desperately at the string of bat-winged lights which broke off from the gutter edge, causing Bryan, who had been working on the far right side of the roof, to swing wildly (and widely) across the front of the house. Neighbors, interviewed later, said they were alerted by Bryan's Tarzan-styled yell, which ceased abruptly when a large oak tree appeared in his vision.

 
At 1/11/06 3:10 PM, btuda said...

(Bryan's thumb cont.)

No one is commenting on how the large oak tree came to be TP'ed with pink thongs and tutus. Film at 11.

 
At 1/11/06 3:48 PM, Louis said...

Bryan...

You broke your thumb...and didn't tell us how?

Curious minds need to know.

Wonder how close GG and MCB are to what actually happened?

Don't believe peeling grapes did it.

cmpbux...blue

curious minds ponder Bob's unusual Xercise

 
At 1/11/06 3:52 PM, Bryan said...

Alright, quit contemplating my mishap. It was just something stupid I did while saving a damsel in distress. Not nearly as exciting as you all have made it out to be.

A young girl had a flat tire and I helped her out. But the garage that last rotated her tires really torqued down the lugnuts. I had to put all of my muscle and most of my weight into it just to get them to break free. How the garage expected a hundred pound girl to change a tire if she needed to, I have no idea. So anyway, when one of them finally let go, the lug wrench whipped around and smashed the knuckle where my thumb joins my hand.

But hey, she said she's going to bake cookies for me, so the pain is worth it.

 
At 1/11/06 4:07 PM, Cherry Magic Sheryl said...

Cookies? Like Dee's cookies? Cause you might be on to a whole new way to date. That was very chivalrous of you.

 
At 1/11/06 4:10 PM, glamour-geek said...

Young girl, huh? Well, at least Andy can tell you what the age of consent is... ;)

Very nice of you to do a good deed, bryan.

 
At 1/11/06 4:10 PM, Lou said...

Bryan - OUCH!!!!

gg - ya know that old saying, "What goes around, comes around?" It's been my experience that people who do bad things get theirs sooner or later (sometimes you have to wait a while). And I think that it is perfectly proper to gloat when that happens...

Only fair...

amc - I think you got some really good suggestions. The one about support groups sounds really good to me. I have an adult friend who suffers from that disease - it is no fun!! Best to you and DD!!

sokbhwaj
a Halloween curse that ends at midnight

 
At 1/11/06 4:18 PM, Lori said...

Dang. I was only halfway through my story about Bryan's thumb. It included a Halloween party, a Grover dance, and a misbehaving tutu.

Feel free to feel blessed that Bryan decided to share the truth before I finished.

...back to studying!

 
At 1/11/06 4:30 PM, Diane said...

Bryan - that's not stupid, that's heroic! Any injuries received in damsel-aiding are noble wounds of honor. You were being modest, wow (pause to cope with unfamiliar concept). I hope no serious damage was done and the cookies are good.

CMS - not wholly new. That's how Savannah and WildCard met in "Out of Control" by Suzanne Brockmann. I trust later events (Indonesia, terrorists, etc.) will not be replicated. I'm not sure Savannah could/ can cook, anyway.

Glamour-geek: there are two other books in the Sorcery and Cecelia series. #2 is called The Grand Tour, about a year old, and is the tale of the joint European honeymoon (both couples plus Lady Sylvia, but no ménages ensue, this is a YA book, for pete's sake!). #3, which I have not yet read (it just came out today), is called The Mislaid Magician, 10 years later. I love Amazon for having all this info readily available, plus reviews and used Jenny Crusie books, but I am NOT HAPPY with them at the moment because...

There's a delay shipping Santa, Baby! Not to arrive 'til next Monday. Good thing I got a bag of books when I went out for Halloween last night! Longer lasting and (I hope) more satisfying than candy. But it is still very sad to have to wait. And be taunted.

djgga: a particularly succulent variety of Australian grub

 
At 1/11/06 4:32 PM, McB said...

Ooh, Bryan. So you were injured in the line of chivalrous duty ... there is a romantic appeal there. Our versions were more fun though.

Seriously, hope it heals fast and well. Gotta take of thumbs. Without them you basically get kicked down a few rungs on the evolutionary ladder.

 
At 1/11/06 4:35 PM, btuda said...

bryan, that was a very good thing you did. Little wonder you've been elevated to GAM status.

Hope you heal soon. You big stud you.

 
At 1/11/06 4:38 PM, me said...

Bryan, I think this makes you a GAM.
Not to say you weren't already. This just reinforces it.

 
At 1/11/06 4:50 PM, K.L. said...

Bryan, does this make you a cabana GAM? Just asking.

 
At 1/11/06 5:11 PM, GatorPerson said...

A chivalrous cabana GAM that peels grapes with his off hand!

And where was he when I needed him about 2 decades ago? Imagine wild, angry broad jumping up, then trying to land with both feet on one side of the lug wrench. Car's in the way; so the broad must jump about 25 degrees from vertical. After about 20 reps and a GREAT DEAL of cussing, nuts broke loose. Piffle on anger management.

Now, I wonder what Bryan said when the knuckle met the lug wrench? "Oh, woe is me, that hurts just a tad." Snort! Mickey Mouse bandaids help. And knuckle kissies from said damsel in distress.

fawcr (I KID YOU NOT!!) What Bryan really said!

 
At 1/11/06 5:51 PM, talpianna said...

DIANE: Wrede has also produced a couple of excellent books set in the same world: MAIRELON THE MAGICIAN and MAGICIAN'S WARD.

Perri O'Shaughnessy is the pseudonym of two sisters who write pretty good mysteries about a female lawyer practicing in Tahoe, on the CA side; and P.J. Tracy is a mother-daughter duo who write EXCELLENT mysteries about a group of weird computer programmers called Monkeewrench and various cops (in Minneapolis and northern Wisconsin) that they get involved with. The books are MONKEEWRENCH, LIVE BAIT, DEAD RUN, and the just-out SNOW BLIND.

And of course there is the writing duo of Frederick Dannay and his cousin Manfred B. Lee--better known as Ellery Queen!

I also liked the Emma Lathen novels--the other pseudonym was R.B. Dominic.

And the A.E. Maxwell Fiddler and Fiora mysteries by Ann and Evan Maxwell (she better known as Elizabeth Lowell) are not too shabby, either!

But, unlike J&B, all these collaborators were relatives or close friends when they started writing together, so J&B have indeed accomplished something special.

MCB: I read one of Stephen J. Cannell's mysteries, part of a series about a cop in L.A./Hollywood. It was pretty entertaining but did not inspire me with a passion to go out and read the rest of the books. Cannell appeared a couple of times on the Dick Van Dyke mystery series DIAGNOSIS: MURDER, playing a parody of a Hollywood screenwriter/producer. He was pretty funny.

BRYAN: You are a hero. Next time, though, a word in your ear: WD-40.

erqnua -- Even Robert's quite normal under alcohol.

 
At 1/11/06 6:01 PM, melanie said...

AMC: there are a number of patient support and advocacy fibromyalgia groups that come up on a Google search. One of them has a "Good Doctor" list that can be found here:

http://www.co-cure.org/Good-Doc.htm

Another thing you might try is trolling through the fibromyalgia sites and looking at the names of doctors who have provided information on child/adolescent fibromyalgia. You can then Google them to find out if they're in a location you can get to. It's a lot of homework--and it also won't help you identify if their patient interaction style is one you're comfortable with--but the fact they were asked to provide content for the site at all is a pretty good indication that some people think highly of their clinical abilities.

I also suggest you look into clinical trials, since you seem to want to move beyond the "usual" medications your current doctor is willing to prescribe. Even if you don't want to enroll your daughter into a clinical trial, the physicians who participate in clinical trials tend to be those who are comfortable with and more knowledgeable about new or different medications. You can get a name of a participating physician from the clinical trial and go see him/her to talk about treatment options. A good source for clinical trials is www.clinicaltrials.gov, which is run by the US goverment. Some info on it may be a little technical, but the individual entries for clinical trials often provide a list of participating sites if you scroll down the page.

I am so sorry to hear about your daughter's diagnosis and I hope you're able to find someone to help!

 
At 1/11/06 6:21 PM, ZaZa said...

Wow, Jenny. That's wonderful. I'm so happy for you. You are such a groundbreaker. Truly. Don't stop now. (not that you would)

oonja (red)
what the Norwegian fan said when he heard Jenny's good news

 
At 1/11/06 6:57 PM, glamour-geek said...

diane: two more in that series?!?!? Woohoo! You have made my day. I think I know what I can read on my flight to Toronto in December!

 
At 1/11/06 7:35 PM, McB said...

Tal said ... It was pretty entertaining but did not inspire me with a passion to go out and read the rest of the books (Cannell's).

Ah, a library author. That's what I call books I'll read but don't want to spend my money on. Although a lot of money-worthy authors were first discovered through the library. Isn't it nice that someone invented a place that lets you 'try on' books without buying them? Never ceases to amaze me. I live in fear that someone will realize what's going on and close the loophole.

Library reads are what keep me going until one of "my" authors has another book out (yes, I am proprietary). And they are perfectly fine for that purpose, but wow they really make you appreciate how dang good the good ones really are. Like going from black and white to hi-def color.

Oh, just wanted to let any NaNo folks know, should they wander in here, that we'll be keeping a pot of coffee and a tin of cookies at the ready when they need refueling.

GO TEAM!!!

 
At 1/11/06 7:43 PM, ZaZa said...

btuda said...
mary said: Don't drink and blog.
Hey, Lori! I think we got another t-shirt idea.

Paraphrased a bit...go look. Credit given.

 
At 1/11/06 7:59 PM, dee said...

What exactly does
SERVICE UNAVAILABLE
mean?
That's what just happened when I tried to post.

Anyhow, I was stopping in to say...

I GOT SANTA BABY!!!

Now I'm off to read it as my reward for reaching my 1750 NaNo goal. To be on track to finish, they suggest 1667 wpd. Today, I did 1779, surpassing both theirs and mine (though only slightly). If I can keep this up, I might just have a shot at finishing!

 
At 1/11/06 8:14 PM, Louis said...

Way to go, Bryan...

White Knighting at it's best.

dmihvmy...green

can't think of a thing.

 
At 1/11/06 8:16 PM, Kay T said...

got my Santa Baby at lunch today and read some. Looks good! I think it calls for some hot chocolate, tonight.

 
At 1/11/06 8:20 PM, Margaret said...

Way to go, Jenny! And Bob! Is this the "afterglow" I keep hearing so much about??

And way to go, Bryan! You did good. (Although Oscar Wilde did say that no good deed ever goes unpunished. Wonder what the punishment will be? Broken thumb? Awful cookies? Date from h*ll? Keep us posted, please!)

AMC: Sorry to hear about DD. Stuff that happens to the kids is just the worst. {{{{{{{{{Hugs}}}}}}}}

 
At 1/11/06 9:00 PM, glamour-geek said...

Have to share this. One of my best girlfriends just sent me the link to this video. Seems a nice fellow in Australia started giving out free hugs. There's a news clip and then there's the video with the music that his friend wrote for him to cheer him up. Guaranteed to put a smile on your face whether you've had a bad day or not! Go check them out!!
News story
In case the link is broken: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9AdQo1qBy1E&NR

Music video
In case the link is broken: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vr3x_RRJdd4&NR

margaret, you reminded me about this:

So, bryan, what ever happened with the email you sent to your sister's friend in Britain? Did she write back?

 
At 1/11/06 9:46 PM, bon cheri bomb said...

AMC: If you still want the name of a good rheumatologist, send me an email at boncheribomb@gmail.com (or just click on the name above and there will be a link to email) -- one of my sisters has recommended someone she has heard very good things about. The practice is in a suburb of Mpls, but perhaps after an initial consultation they could recommend someone closer to you, if needed.

G-G: I liked the hug story/video, it made me smile. I could use a good hug.

bw

 
At 1/11/06 11:29 PM, ZaZa said...

btuda said...
the remains of several hostases (hostasi? anywho, more than one hostas)

Hosta is the singular and hostas the plural. At least in AE. /;+)


dee said...
You managed to combine romance and adventure, kisses and guns, love and death, in a way that had women and men alike hanging on every word.

My two cents worth - other writers have written romantic adventure, BUT it's always the woman adapting to the man's world - the danger, jeopardy, and violence - gradually becoming a female version of him. In DLD, probably because Jenny wrote the female and Bob the male, the woman stays herself, even when his world intrudes upon hers. I think that's a very Crusie trait. Her women always remain true to who they are, no matter whose world they might find themselves in. JMO


Bryan said...
I think I broke my thumb yesterday. I can barely move it today.

That wound is a badge of honor! Like G-G said, get it checked out. You don't want a frozen thumb joint because you neglected it.


BTW, on that tee, it's just a sample, still. But I thought I'd get it up there before some other CP shop gets the idea. Which brings up some BUSINESS

What do we want to do about saying that we use on tees? Are they going to be the property of the CBs? Or of the person who came up with them? It's not too thorny an issue, but if someone comees up with one that is used for a CB item, they might want to keep the rights to it, in case they wanted to do something of their own, for them to sell. Should we just let it be up to the individual contributing the idea?

Which brings up something else that J&B need to consider. Most of these ideas originated on the blog. These comments are our proof that "we" came up with them and did not steal them from someone else. So, we need to be able to get access to them, even after the blog closes down. Please keep that in mind, guys, when you make your plans. Thanks.


glamour-geek said...
Seems a nice fellow in Australia started giving out free hugs.

He was on Oprah this week. She had him stand out in front of the Harpo building with his sign. He only got a few hugs from audience members, and the cops were unsure what to make of him. ;+)))

ffxqta (red)
fastly, fiercely, Xavier quaked to act

 
At 2/11/06 1:29 AM, Scope Dope Cherrybomb said...

Hi there.
Just popped in to say hello. Thanks for the coffee and cookies mcb that was very thoughtful of you.

I put an incident from my writing for NaNo on Jenny's post that has just come out. Thought you all might get a laugh out of it.

I logged in 3,191 words for Day l. Hope I can keep it up.
good luck to the others too.


blue htcrfqu

How to crochet really frustrates querelous users.

 
At 2/11/06 4:02 AM, talpianna said...

Got and read Wrede & Stevermer's THE MISLAID MAGICIAN. Wonderful! Highly recommended.

paivc -- caffeinated beverage administered intravenously in Pennsylvania.

 
At 2/11/06 4:55 AM, orangehands said...

glow, Jenny, glow. i remember that rat post; i liked it.

lori: hope "quiz" (ha!) goes well.

amc: sending good thoughts your way. hope it does go away for your DD.

JJ: tell DD congrats.

bryan: hope thumb is better.

NaNo people: Good Luck.

BCB: ((HUGS))

reminder to self: go look at smile video when have time to fix whatever is wrong with youtube.

zaza: agree with your take on Jenny females. and i guess leaving it up to the person is best.

i think those were the main points. hope everyone had a good Halloween and etc. hopefully i'll be back tomorrow.

BTW: got my absentee ballot. how cool is that?

 
At 2/11/06 5:00 PM, Diane said...

OH - I voted absentee for about half my adult life (while I was in college and graduate school). Definitely cool - and convenient. My parents live in OR, where everyone votes by mail, which may be a good idea, too...

Zaza - you mean I can't ask for the "Friends don't let friends..." tank for my b-day? Or just that it's not the official garb yet?

Talpianna- goodness, you don't mess around!

Regarding "library reads" - for me, it's not necessarily an indication of how good I think something is, on one level (though often it is). It may be more a matter of "do I tend to re-read this author?". In some cases, I get a lot out of a book, but am not particularly inclined to re-read - e.g. Minette Walters, who I think is amazing, but somehow I don't tend to go back and re-savor. I'm torn about Guy Gavriel Kay - who I also think is amazing, but the books are so intricate and so wrenching that I can't just pick them up for a cozy re-read. I do have The Lions of Al Rassan and Song for Arbonne, and I might some day be able to read Tigana again, but wow.

iystabb: for when you want to emphasize your intention.

 
At 2/11/06 8:23 PM, McB said...

Zaza - love the tank, but jeez, do we really want to stop people from drinking while they blog? Sounds to me like those might be some very interesting posts!

 
At 2/11/06 8:26 PM, McB said...

Diane said ... It may be more a matter of "do I tend to re-read this author?". In some cases, I get a lot out of a book, but am not particularly inclined to re-read

Good point. I have some of those authors as well. Especially if they are easy to come by in the library.

 

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