Warning: Some Violence and Much Strong Language.HE WROTE: Hot Toy
I’ve clothed the women in the book. Scantily, but they’re clothed. Technically.
I was in the supermarket yesterday buying clothes for my characters, paper napkins if I remember rightly, when I looked across all the checkout counters—a long way—and saw JENNIFER CRUSIE on the top row of the paperback rack. It was the only name I could read so it was a good cover. I thought the name sounded familiar so I decided to investigate.
There was a book there called HOT TOY. With a very hot cover.
It turns out my ‘partner’ has been cheating on me and writing other stuff. Well, I was dismayed to say the least. Shocked. Aghast. Whatever. The Usual Suspects.
But I also noticed chapter one of DON’T LOOK DOWN, our He Wrote/She Wrote, Crusie/Mayer, romantic adventure, (three other speaking points, whatever) was in there. So good advertising. If you got to cheat, at least pay the piper. Or the toll. Or the troll. Whatever.
Where was I?
AGNES: we’ve had a draft done for a while but it’s not quite there. The ending needs to be tightened. It’s a little too long right now and complicated. So that’s my job today because Jenny has abandoned me to go home to the bosom of her family in Wapakakakanottoa, Ohio. Of course, I’m abandoning her tomorrow to drive to Charleston.
We talked a lot about what will follow Agnes this past weekend in Norfolk. And will talk more this upcoming weekend in Cincinnati. I spent the flights coming home sketching out ideas for my character and supporting characters. Very exciting to be doing new stuff.
We also discussed marketing and other ideas. Jenny had a pretty good idea that we’ll check out next year.
Yes. Teasers all.
Back to figuring out how to kill all these people.
172 Comments:
First!
Yes Bob, teasers all. But we'll forgive all if we eventually, at some point, actually get to read Agnes.
And we know you clothed the characters. One of them at least. Princess, in a tight pink t-shirt.
I'm laughing so hard I can't see straight.
Thanks Bob. That was good.
Now to go decifer the nine page lesson.
If you keep spelling Jenny's home town wrong like that, I'm sure she'll come up with a few ways to kill people. You, for instance.
You're such a tease. But we like you anyway. Looking forward to Agnes and whatever else it is you're taunting us with.
Bob wrote: "Back to figuring out how to kill all these people."
Yeah, somehow I don't think this will be much of a problem for you... back to the nine page lesson.
BB guns, wasn't it, out of your office window? Or your favorite and mine, a Glock with plenty of extra ammo and limes. Gotta have limes. Especially around Charleston, as I recall.
Bob.... Wapakakakanottoa??? I was going to ask if you were pulling our collective leg (or at least the legs of those of us who are not familiar with American towns... oh dear, the legs are multiplying...), but I see from Me's comment you were indeed.
Not nice, Bob :P
:D
*sigh* Hot Toy isn't out over here in the land of Oz. Or, at least, it isn't in the book section of Big W. Isn't that sad? There is no proper book shop in this town. That alone is reason enough to move.
*sigh*
dammit.
Bob said: If you got to cheat, at least pay the piper. Or the toll. Or the troll. Whatever.
Yeah, those trolls will get you every time. *grin*
BTW, napkins are diapers in Australia ... so ... interesting idea for clothing your women, if you're into that kind of thing. Heh. We say serviette for a table napkin.
rg
hemxclr Hem xtra clear (today)
You clothe them, then kill them? Sounds verrry interesting Bob. You are such a tease, part of your charm. That, and the Glock.
Erica said...
Bob.... Wapakakakanottoa??? I was going to ask if you were pulling our collective leg
*snort* Bob was giving Jenny a hard time. There is a Wapaka, Ohio which I assume is what he was referring to.
Should be interesting to see see Jenny's come-back ... oh you don't think she's going to let that go, do you?
"It turns out my ‘partner’ has been cheating on me and writing other stuff. Well, I was dismayed to say the least. Shocked. Aghast. Whatever. The Usual Suspects."
Interesting, considering you are in the acknowledgments for your contribution to the story.
I personally think it would be cool to have some suspects killed with paper clips. This would keep the "Bob Mayer mystique" going.
Ok kids, and GAM, it is officially Wapakoneta, or Wapak to those who call it home. Named for the Blackhoof Indian chief Wapa and his princess Koneta. At least that is what they made us learn in school.
There now, a little history lesson on Monday.
I read Hot Toy and it is Absolutely written by Jenny Crusie. Snark infested, it is. And wonderful.
Carry on with the NANO NANO and the killing.
Seems like the TA DA cover was also a talking point. (Wonder if the paperback DLD will also have TA DA cover?)
Pretty good snark Bob. This blog entry had me choking on my green tea.
I am SO looking forward to Agnes - however the people die - but have had my craving fed, temporarily, by "Hot Toy", which arrived at my house Friday. I didn't get home 'til nearly 10 p.m., had to get to the Farmer's Market and put together a version of Tiramisù to mellow (for 6 hours or more), so I didn't get to Santa Baby 'til the afternoon on Saturday. Then I read it from back to front, saving the BEST for the last.
Somehow it seems more likely that one could appear soigné in a serviette than in a paper napkin. Does this non-traditional clothing material mean that Bob has been influenced (however unconsciously and indirectly) by Project Runway? Or do they teach supermarket dressing in Green Beret school?
I read "Hot Toy" again yesterday.
I guess people who are successfully self-employed writers must be fundamentally different from me - I become positively hostile when people want me to talk about the next project when I'm neck-deep in the current one. Depending, of course, but when I'm overwhelmed with, for example, the Christmas season (a darned overwhelming season, as "Hot Toy" illustrates), I am not prepared to discuss even plans for Twelfth Night. Once Christmas Day (and its dinner) is over, I can think again, but between presents and food and travel - no.
Speaking of, we're discussing ways to stay in touch with our extended family for the holiday season: we've done a Family Santa thing where each person gets someone a gift in the extended family, but it feels pretty perfunctory when they fill out a gift questionnaire and you buy them something from it - in some cases, I haven't seen these people in over 10 years (nearly 20 for one of my first cousins). And my sister does most of the work in her kids' names, so it's a lot for her. Any suggestions to a) retain/expand the connection b) reduce the expense for families with kids c) encourage involvement by men and children?
"Verbose" is definitely the mot juste.
still diane: perhaps whatever gift exchange happens, it should be accompanied by a personal note saying something about the person's work/school (for kids and adult), hobbies, and something they are looking forward to doing soon (playing with friends, participating in a sport, reading quietly, etc.). That way each person knows something about the person they are receiving the gift from and families can share these around and maybe learn something they wouldn't about the other extended family members.
You could also include my favorite question to ask people: if you could travel anywhere, money no object, where would you go first?
I'd assume that over years an accumulation of these and giving different people things each year would eventually mean you'd either learn more about a larger number of family members or you'd see how one person grew and changed over the years if you had the same person again.
You make me so grateful that it's just me and my parents at the holidays! :)
Hey cherry magic sheryl I think Bob just told you how to dress your demon. Paper napkins sound good or serviettes or whatever one calls them.
Met with other Nano people in our city last night. It was interesting. It was also helpful so we exchanged emails and are going to keep encouraging each other. One girl has been doing this for four years but has not reached the 50,000 yet. Hopes to this year. Me too. As jen-t keeps pointing out "I think I can, I think I can" is a good mantra. Then at the end I would be able to say, "I knew I could, I knew I could." /,D
wewbd Write every word, Bob Doherty.
SD, you'll be fine. My motto this year is, rock on with your bad self. I'm using it pretty liberally, so will have to come up with a new catchphrase by the end of November, but it works for now.
Still ... I perhaps with each gift could be included that person's place on the family tree, plus perhaps a story or bit of info they know about another member of the family. People are funny when it comes to talking about themselves, but they might share an 'I remember when' story about someone else. Or maybe just a bit of that person's history ... such as "I know my grandad was in the army" or "my Aunt Martha used to teach 2nd grade"
We also discussed marketing and other ideas. Jenny had a pretty good idea that we’ll check out next year.
I read those two sentences four times and decided it was more odd Bob humor. Checking out is slang for dying. Nobody would consider the authors 'checking out' a good marketing idea.
Faking it wouldn't work -- unless we concocted an entire "Paul is Dead" ruse. I guess we could concoct some scheme where Jenny and Bob disappear and we have to decode the hints in Agnes and the Hit Man to find out what happened to the Cherry and the GAM.
Of course, they'd have to disappear together to some secluded island. Plus: They could write all the time without interruption. Minus: They'd fight all of the time without distraction.
Clearly, I'm overtired and brain-drained from my own version of living the dream this weekend. *g*
I finally realized that, duh, they were going to check out the good idea as in investigate.
ddhvj: Death definitely hampers vivid joy.
Diane, in the spirit of the discussion of Agnes, Hot Toy, etc... Since you live in Oz, (you do, don't you?), it's warm enough that you could give each family a, TaDa, flamingo!
Now, wouldn't they be overjoyed and, well, speechless? Particularly when you say the CB's recommended flamingoes for everyone.
lnhvgver: An extended hangover
Gatorperson: no, I live in upstate NY (where it's beautiful today, but cannot be expected to be indefinitely). Members of my family live in MA, OR, CO and UT - but the flamingoes are an idea, as my mom and dad and sister and I used to be on Flamingo Way (in CA).
But maybe we should do the "adopt an animal" routine this year, and send each other notes about, if I were an animal, what I would be.
BTW, I was talking to my parents yesterday, and there is, apparently, an ice cream with my Dad's first name. So, I said, "what kind was it?", but it turns out it's a brand. If you were an ice cream, what flavor would YOU be?
I like some kind of personal note thing - I don't know if it can be made light-hearted enough to be fun and not yet another holiday chore, but we could try. The memory idea is nice, as some of my cousins are too young to remember their grandparents.
Mary Stella said...
Faking it wouldn't work -- unless we concocted an entire "Paul is Dead" ruse. I guess we could concoct some scheme where Jenny and Bob disappear and we have to decode the hints in Agnes and the Hit Man to find out what happened to the Cherry and the GAM.
You know I didn't read it that way the first time around, but now that you've mentioned it ...
Could be that the whole "we're taking time off next year to work on our own books" is indeed 'checking out' as in disappearing for awhile.
And why do I have the feeling that SMP will blame the CherryBombs? They'll send Needles after us, so our only hope will be a race against time to decode Agnes and the Hit Man to find out where J&B have been stashed (of course they saw this coming ahead of time and left clues in the MS) ... and you know its possible that while him and her were only talking about down time, that Mother does indeed have plans for our digiting duo. Remember the Maltese Flamingo? Mother escaped that time, but like the best super villians ... she'll be back. She's only been resting and hatching her next nefarious plot on the Island of San Moot.
"Faking it wouldn't work" Not to mention which, Jenny already wrote that book.
zqwlp: zebra quossing, wobbly like penquins
MCB and Mary Stella--this is beginning to sound like the Da Vinci code...
Ah but Bob, did you buy it? Royalties, Bob royalties.
Erica - do what I do, order it through Rosemary's Romance Bookshop in Brisbane. She got me DLD(which still is not stocked in any OZ store I've been in) which arrived the same day it was released in the US. That woman is a romance goddess and she'll get you anything you want. It'll be a little more expensive but not having to wait for the latest JC is worth it IMHO. I ordered mine last week. So now I wait....
On a completely different note, but one the CBs would understand.
I got to watch while they removed my pink oven, pink stovetop, and took a sawsall to my pink countertop. I think I giggled the whole time. Yes, this kitchen dates back to 1962. Today was the first step. I am so excited to be stepping into the 21st century. We actually get a dishwasher. Woohoo! I had to tell somebody, and you guys got to be it.
kl: perhaps they could place them next to the pink tub, pink sink, pink toilet, pink tile surrounding the tub, and pink fake marbelized countertop in my bathroom, in the event that the landlords ever decide to refurbish this place.
Better than the aqua or mustard in other apartments in the building. At least it doesn't reflect a color that makes you look ill. Pink is comparatively healthy...
k.l. - I just finished my moment of silence on behalf of your kitchen.
I've been chasing "retro" kitchen stuff from the 50s and early 60's in pink, turquoise, and black for the last 3 years.
But, I can totally understand the desire to have NEW appliances.
Enjoy the 21at Century.
Marcia,
You can currently take any retro stuff you want right out of my front yard. It is just sitting there waiting to be hauled away. Of course, the stove top only has 3 working burners, and they are all the small ones. The oven is only 24" wide and the wiring is almost totally fried, and the countertop was pretty beat up before the sawsall had its way with it. I think after 14 years of that particular color, I am done with retro.
k.l. - congratulations on the new kitchen - I hope that you didn't miss a "break-even" opportunity by not selling your pink stuff to marcia in OK! Re-use is very environmentally sound and clearly tastes differ. My sister loves not the pink fixtures in her bathroom (lower on the priority list than the horrible kitchen floor and carpets), but decided to just go with it and painted the walls dark lavender.
And dishwashers are very important!
GG,
I think your pink fake marbelized countertop and my pink fake marbelized countertop were made at the same factory. And I am sure the pink enamel paint was made in large quantities during the early 60s. Yes, pink isn't the worst color they made, and that avacado green stuff and mustard stuff would have turned my stomache. I am looking forward to a more wood toned look though.
Hi Diane,
Yes, we just went with the flow when we moved in and installed white vinyl with little pink squares and gray piping. Visualize this though. It covered up the original linolium which was yellow toned with little gray and white squares and flecks in it. Pink counters and a yellow floor. *Shudder* We had to take up the vinyl in preperation for the new flooring, so now we are back to the yellow stuff, which is now discolored with glue stains. Even better.
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Bob! You wrote Cincinnati! Picture me wiping a proud tear from my eye.
Thanks wapakwoman, I'd never heard of Wapakoneta, OH. You saved me a Google search, I learned something new today, and it's almost time for the ACM's this evening. Win-win all around.
Well, you all have been busy today, haven‘t you? And Bob is tightening up Agnes because it’s too hard-- no, that’s not what he said. It’s complicated and too long.
Bob. [sigh] Pay attention, darlin'. We’ve been reading and commenting on this blog for almost a year now. It should be apparent that we love complicated and too long. We’ve gotten used to it, in fact. We probably won’t even care whether Agnes arcs, or even particularly makes much sense.
Well, except for the fact that Jenny told us all the things to look for in a well-written ms. And then ran off and left you to achieve perfection all by yourself. Buy hey, no pressure.
Geez. Just turn it in already. You can fix it in the line edit stage, right? Or just write an epilogue to explain things. Or does Jenny object to those, too?
Can’t wait to hear more about your new stuff, with its sketchy but supportive characters. Almost sounds like you’re planning to write about the CBs.
bw
KL and GG - did the marbelized counter-tops have that fake gold vein running through? KL - I can totally appreciate that you wanted to watch.
How well I remember avocado *shudder*.
The came to measure my house for new flooring today. First floor only as I have to do this as I can afford. I'm going with laminate - wood for all rooms except the kitchen, and in the kitchen terra cotta slate ... well fake but looks good.
Can't wait to get rid of the hideous linoleum and carpet.
Mayer flew low, mapping Atlanta
Ahem....
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BCB pointed out ... It should be apparent that we love complicated and too long.
Yeah, but the Cherry gets upset when we beg for longer books.
Apologetically, Bob pens quickly, going eagerly in.
Kl: congratulations.
diane: i'm still voting for Twinkletoes.
BCB said "Almost sounds like you’re planning to write about the CBs."
now there's a freaky thought.
BTW Bob, i liked the post.
Eileen posted on Well Behaved with very exciting news.
Jenny also changed how the site looked on Argh Ink (no new post though).
and for anyone noticing how big a ime lapse it is for these posts of mine, it's because the internet connection in my room is HORRIBLE. ok, i have a lecture, later.
Hot Toy huh? Was the subtitle: working with my writing collaborator? Or if we call Bob a Hot Toy does it demean his person? Reduce him to a pinky killing boy toy? Can't have that. We love him for his brain too of course. And his luggage carrying abilities.
Bob -tease tease tease - but yippee. keep on keepin' on - we are an almost patient bunch and have no choice but to wait for what must surely be the best romantic/kill all these people book ever.
Hey everybody - can't comment on comments, too much, and still have fried brains from move. We've all decided I really don't do well with change. And being a nonconfrontational sort(except in my head, then I really talk up a good fight) I was unable to "jack-up" as my boys say, the cable/phone/internet bungler, I mean bundler. I've missed you all and the pseudo-sanity/insanity you bring to my day!
To all nano writers GO GO GO!
Did I miss Jen's trip to Sin City? and how's Frank?
Congrats on the demise of the pink kitchen KI.
Cary -I'll e-mail but count me in for cookies, can that be a euphamism for booze? Moving really stinks.
K.L. - I love retro as much as the next girl, but I think there is a lot to be said for stoves with TWO large burners and TWO small. My fave wanna-have-it retro item? Those fridges and stoves you see on the home design shows. All the style and color of the '50s version, but the convenient features of the new millenium (like frost-free freezer compartments and more large burners).
Okay, I'm home now, and the dog's had his evening walk, so he's sacked out on the floor sleeping, so....
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Will have to come back to read the latest comments, just heard the introductions on the CMA's ... got to dash. My "boys" are on tonight. *grin*
rg
just went to lecture. i saw about thirty species of mushrooms (the housemate i sat next to brought his laptop and he really likes mushrooms, and i don't mean the drug). i also learnt the lecturer's name was Bruce.
ok, this is probably good night. so night.
and USA CBs- DON'T FORGET TO VOTE!
Any American librarians want to come work in Canada?
Here's the link. I'm sorry I can't rememeber how to make the links blue. I went thought old posts to find the diretions but seem to be incredibly challenged finding things these days. But your job would entail making me more computer literate lol
http://thoroldpubliclibrary.ca/library1.htm
Several libraries in the area are switching to this new system but so far ours is the only one that's posted it. What do you think Lori,Bryan, Andi? This is all part of my TOTW plan.
The Christmas/Hanukah Cookie Exchange List will open as soon as my blood sugar stabilizes from the Thanksgiving Exchange.
For the Christmas/Hanukkah Exchange, may I participate with brownies? I make outstanding double-chocolate decadent brownies.
For the kitchen remodelers: I had my kitchen completely redone this summer. New ceiling, walls, lighting, floor, cabinets, counters, appliances. The guys at Quiznos and I became really good friends when I picked up my nightly meal. The results are SO worth the inconvenience. If I could only make up my mind about tile for the backsplash, we could finish up the last touches. I pledge by Christmas.
aszmssg: Alarmed, Susan zapped messages, suddenly sensing guilt.
Mary Stella wrote: I make outstanding double-chocolate decadent brownies.
My mouth is watering just reading this. But sadly, I can't participate because I won't be back in the states until Dec 21. I shouldn't complain too much though, because I'll be in Rome for the two weeks before that.
I know. I'll go back in my corner and shut up now.
"I shouldn't complain too much though, because I'll be in Rome for the two weeks before that." Yeah, as one of my grade school teachers used to say, "My heart bleeds purple kool-aid for you."
Lucky Christina!
MaryStella, of course your brownies are welcome in the Christmas/Hanukah cookie/goodie exchange! And I don't just say that because my mouth is watering already. (Although I haven't had breakfast yet.....)
If there are going to be double-chocolate decadent brownies for the Christmas/Hanukkah Exchange, me and my chocolate chip cookies will be there. My kitchen will be back in operation by then. I am going with the tile looking laminate too, and am just so excited. Such a pain right now, but it will be worth it. The electrician came in and finished up his part last night so now I can even plug everything in. And can I just say Convection Oven! WooHoo!
K.I.
Right on re: the convection oven. We put one in last Xmas...my DW swears by it. In hindsite...wish we had also put in the convection microwave.
kpfyzvt...blue
kitchen police find YEC zaps virtual time
I'll keep the convection microwave in mind. We are at the limit, and are not replacing the microwave at this time. But good to know for when we do.
K.L. said...
I am going with the tile looking laminate too,
Oooh, we can compare notes. Some of that is so realistic you have to actually touch it to know the difference. Hope to have mine in my month's end.
McB, Yes, it will be fun to see how each other's floors turns out. I may even try to put a picture on my blog site, since I seem to have one. A before and after pic.
I'll keep the convection microwave in mind. We are at the limit, and are not replacing the microwave at this time. But good to know for when we do.
Ohhh, do it! I chose a convection microwave for the new kitchen. Love love love it! Also love the fridge with the freezer on the bottom. Can we say appliance ecstasy (even without batteries)?
The big splurge for the kitchen remodel, aside from the fact that the entire remodeling was a splurge, was the Silestone quartz counters. Gorgeous, resilient and, it bears repeating, gorgeous.
keoecd: Kitchens, especially ovens, expand cooking delight. (What a timely word verification. LOL)
Ya'll realize that Jenny is in the bosom of her family and Bob is driving to Charlston...children, we are home alone....PARTY!
Snort.
I had what my friend cakes and I like to call a Bruce Willis Moment (or a light bulb moment) today. Maybe it was a Bob Mayer moment, since something he said in a lecture recently triggered the blub to go off. Either way, it was a moment of "Holy shit! I can't believe I didn't think of that before."
And then I got to work and just now i took a break and I looked back and I wrote 35 pages! Holy crap. 35 pages in like 5 hours! Okay, not 5 hours straigth. That would be 3 hours this morning, and 2 hours just now, but how does one do that? I'm not sure I've ever written more than 25 pages in one day before. I don't really count because you can become obbessed with word count, and that can be a bad thing for me. I write every day, but each day my time limits are different so I don't stress over how many words I put on the page only that I put words down.
Anyway, just had share. Now off to the hockey rink.
Oh, last night we had our first ever HS girls hockey game here in Rochester! For three years we have been trying to make Varsity girls hockey a reality. Well, we are not there yet, but we do have the backing of most of the Atheltic directors. This was an exhibition game, and hopefully there will be more this year. Hopefully we will have a team next year.
Hi Jen T,
I need to ask. We recently started going to our local hockey games, and the league is for 15-19 year olds. Anyway, the other night there were like 7 fights. Didn't think the actual game would ever get finished. And the refs just stand back and wait until someone goes down. Any other sport and people would be ejected and suspended, but it seems to be pretty much standard practice in hockey. Why is that?
k.l. - Youth hockey rules are that if they fight, they are ejected from the game. No if, ands or buts about it. You fight, you are gone for rest of game and suspended for the next one. This is a zero tolerance rule in USA Hockey. If what you are watching is a youth organization, this should not be happening.
Now, I've seen youth games where one kid punches another kid and the refs don't call it fighting, but unsportsman like, or maybe a ruffing penalty. I've seen refs use their discrestion in calling the "fighting" penalty. And just recently while wathing my DS13 game I saw a fight break out and I watched the kids get escorted off the ice. Believe it or not, fighting is not encouraged. HS games are very physical and checking is part of the game, but kids want to be like the NHL players and sometimes the fighting is glamorized. But if you pay attention, the fights are penalized.
As far as the refs go, well, I know in NHL hockey they won't break up the fight until someone goes down or looses equipment (like the helmet). In youth hockey, the break it up right away.
Now, in men's league, it depends. My husbands league is a non-checking league. No fighting allowed the refs would probably suspend the players for one game. There have been fights, and the players have been thrown from the game.
So I'm really not sure what you are watching and why that is happening. I know games look pretty nastly, especially at the HS level with all the "checking" but fighting really isn't allowed, even though it happens.
Convection microwave? Didn't know those things had been invented yet. I'll think about it when mine dies. I have an oven that's regular; convection; regular/convection; and broil. LoveIt. Couldn't live w/o it. That and my 6 burner (gas) stove top! Yep, good stuff. Hmmm. Maybe that's why everyone ends up here for holiday dinners.
mkrnb: Macaroni, krumkakes, ravioli. Nummy! Burp!
Jen-T: congratulations on your productive day! It's wonderful when things come together that way.
OH: I'm still waiting on the Twinkletoes - that was the choice if I freak out in my identity crisis, and it hasn't quite happened yet, though I'll agree it's memorable. Was the mushroom lecture for a class, or just because you were interested? And were they about food or plant pathogens, or mycorrhizae or what? A friend of mine, inspired by a recent lecture, dressed up as mycorrhizae for Halloween - lots of pipecleaners to represent the fungal filaments, and a mushroom on her head. Her children helped, as her (5th grade?) son had learned about this mutually beneficial relationship between fungi and roots in science.
I tried to hold back, I really did. I don't say I tried very hard ... but I did try. I can't help it, I'll regret it later, heck I'm regretting it even as I type but I can't stop myself. I have to ask ...
JEN ... when your blub went off, did it make a mess?
Speaking of Halloween, there were two people dressed as spiders at the milonga I went to, one male, one female. It looked incredibly funny when they were dancing together.
Goodness gracious! I've voted already! When are all these political idiots going to stop phoning me with their messages??? And do they REALLY think I'm going to listen to their tape recorded messages on my voicemail (or on the phone)? Please.
MCB - snort! Actually, the blub mand a huge mess as two cars ran a truck off the road and it smashed into a tree, then flipped over and the person inside is near dead, and the heroine is going to be accused of hiring someone to kill her nephews father...you'll have to read the book when it comes out in September (hey, if Bob can tease, so can I!)
crap - I meant made! not mand - my nails are out of control! Thanks goodness I go tomorrow. No more glow in the dark - back to sparkles.
I was snorting over the blub too, but was able to refrain. On the hockey thing, it is the Western Hockey League. Not a youth hockey league. I think they allow a few 20 year olds but mostly it is 15-19. They eventually get drafted up into the NHL. Does this help? The refs did call for instigating penalties, fighting penalties and such. Whoever instigated ended up with a total of 17 minutes in the box.
Completely off topic, but I am compelled to ask if anyone else watched Desparate Housewives on Sunday evening. I had to LOL when Edie told the cheating husband in the grocery store to go ouside and face his lunatic gun-wielding wife because "sometimes you have to take one for the team."
Oh, Jen, we do soo miss you when you don't post. Go ahead, blame it on the nuclear-glow nails, but we know the truth....
Come on, tell us... Did you use auto-correct on those 35 pages?
I'm worried that the the cars ran a truth off the road and heroin killed the nephews. That sounds like political intrigue, not romantic suspense....
Cary, if Jen plays her cards right she could end up with two different books from one ms.
jxqzak: Jenny, Xavier quietly zinged, always knows.
MCB, don't you mean if Jen hits the right keys?
I am so excited, I had to come over here and share. One of my sisters is visiting me for a few days (yes, the one who drew some of the logo ideas) and guess what she brought for me? Give up?
My very own CB Bar & Grill mug! With one of my favorite logos on it! (the one with the solid red martini glass and the cherry on a swizzle stick -- only she "perfected" it just for me! HA!)
Sisters are so cool sometimes. I'm so happy.
That's all. Got to visit now.
bw
Jen-T and all other writing CBs--When you write, is the document single or double spaced? I find that single space works best for me while I am writing but am curious to know what works best for others and why.
BCB: ooh, how wonderful! Sisters can, indeed, be fabulous.
Christina: I'm not a fiction writer, but I both read and write a lot electronically, and I rarely print out. I prefer to read single spaced, and with the wonders of "track changes" editing, can interpolate without needing DS.
k.l. - it sounds like it's possibly what is called Juniors. Many kids who are really talented play in Juniors before they play for their colleges since mostly juniors and seniors play and it's a good way to get noticed. Some will argue that if you don't play Juniors, you won't ever play in the NHL.
Fighting - you have to drop your gloves to fight (weird rule) and the refs won't break it up until either someone goes down, a helmet comes off or some other circomstance that is at the refs discretion. Either way, it's a five minute penalty for those who engaged in the fight. At least this is the rule for AHL/NHL. I'm not completely sure about Juniors, but one would think it would be somewhere between youth/college and the NHL.
Not sure if this helps. Have you ever seen the movie Slapshot? It's a great movie and has the best hockey fight scene ever. Well, it's a weird scene, but it's great. It's an R rated movie.
I know both of my son's hockey coaches highly discourage any type of fighting, but if the gloves come off in youth, you are out of the game. I guess you can punch wiht the gloves on and just get a 2 minute. And according to my children, who I just asked...punches get thrown every game.
MCB wrote: "Cary, if Jen plays her cards right she could end up with two different books from one ms."
Snort - that already happened. DARK WATERS was actually born from LOVE LIES BENEATH (yet to vbe finished or sold). The latter needs some serious work and will end up with political undertones to it. I need Bob's help with this one, hence the course at KOD on special ops. Very interesting stuff.
DARK WATER comes out in September, just in case you want to buy it. Frist book comes out in June. Just saying, you know.
Cary wrote: "Come on, tell us... Did you use auto-correct on those 35 pages?"
Always!
Christina wrote: "When you write, is the document single or double spaced? I find that single space works best for me while I am writing but am curious to know what works best for others and why."
I always do double space. At first because it was just easier and when submitting everything was based on page count, double spaced, new courier, yadda, yadda, yadda. Now when I submit to my e-pub I submit it single spaced, but I still type it double spaced and then just select all and change it. When I'm editing I like to print it out double spaced so I can make notes - just easier to read. When doing critiques - my partners give it to me double spaced and it's easier. Every contest I've done has always been double spaced. So there you have it.
Jen T. Thanks, that does help. I was wondering about all the misc equipment scattering the ice during the fights. The usual penalty was 5 minutes for fighting (each player) 10 minutes for instigating (just one player) and a 2 minute penalty where the team is short that player. The penalty boxes were not lonely that night.
cary said "Yeah, as one of my grade school teachers used to say, "My heart bleeds purple kool-aid for you.""
oh, that is so muchb etter than rubbing two fingers togetehr and going "i'm playing the smallest violen for you"
mcb said "JEN ... when your blub went off, did it make a mess?"
*snort* but congrats JJ.
twinkletoes: (i'm trying it out for you): aka TT: actually, the lecture was about philosophy, it was just my housemate sitting next to me was going through his pictures of mushrooms. i found it way more fascinating (some of them are so cool looking) than Bruce.
BCB: nice sis.
christina: for school essays, i write single space and normally a small font size (like ten), and then when i turn it in i change it to 12 and double. for story writing i normally do the same. something about the tinyness of it makes it seem like i'm making more progress than i am (my mind's screwed up, so this may not help you much). but when i'm correcting it and it's printed out, i double space it. like JJ said, easier to correct that way.
wow, i did a horrible job previewing. i blame it on my lack of nails- i accidently ripped one of them off and it's screwing with my typing.
that's my story and i'm sticking to it.
gg> well, I was diligently erasing the political messages until one of them said -
"Hi, this is Robert Redford..."
I don't even know what he was supporting (Prop 87 I think), BUT Robert Redford called me, la, la, la. I am going to have to save that don't you think? I wonder if he left a number?
(OH, I know you think he is too old, but ... Robert Redford called me.)
kay t: Don't feel that good about it, he called me, too. I deleted it. That man has no morals. If you call one girl, you shouldn't call others as well! He's a player, what can I tell you? :)
Wow, just haven't really appreciated much whats comes into a good book.
I can't wait to see Agnes on the shelf. Is this the same book with Ms. Livia on it?
Jen - thanks for the hockey lesson, my husband played until a broken leg resulting from an illegal check in a no-check league at 34. He was so bummed about not being able to finally play in the over 35 league. Now can you explain icing? Because he has even drawn pictures and I still don't get it.
Have the last of the sub-contractors coming tomorrow to "fix" the built-in in the family room. It looks like that really bad office furniture, can't even paint it b/c the wood grain is too deep. We can't afford what I want, so instead we plan to make what is there look really bad so people don't mistake it for my taste and then it will become the priority on the expenditures list, when the money tree blooms again. Convection microwave? I didn't even know there was such an animal. I did get the French door refridgerator with the freezer on the bottom, and a front loader washing machine. We are so FAyancy(big southern drawl) here now!
How come I didn't get a call from Bob Redford? and I did vote. Had to keep myself from not drastically changing my opinion of my dearest friend in GA, when she said she didn't think she would go vote, in front of her kids. I'm scowling now just thinking about it. I love election day! I love voting, even with the touch screen, I feel very patriotic! GO democracy - you rock!
OH - I'm absolutely convinced I would much rather read your tiny single spaced writing than my DS's 14 font, opti-color report on modern Japanese entertainment. ouch!
Yep, me too, double spaced, easier to catch the typos. Eyes get very strained in this business.
Hey, no fair ... Bob didn't call me (Redford that is ... relax Bob Mayer, we all know you don't do phone.) Hehe.
rg
Andi - I broke my leg at 37 playing Hockey and got a concussion. The concussion was what made me quit. Although the bug as bit me again. I might sign up and play in January. That is if I can keep my husband from freaking out over it. He got a little wigged out when he saw me sprawled out on the ice, out cold. I guess it was kind of scary for the guy. Personally, I don't remember it. Snort. Okay, so it's not really all that funny, but when you husband says to the doctor, "her eyes were open, but I could tell she left the building." Well, it's funny.
Icing is actually very easy, when it's five on five. If the puck leaves your zone and goes untouched by the other team (and they couldn't possibly get it) and the puck goes past the goal line on the other teams zone, it's icing and the refs blow the whistle and bring it back to your zone. You can ice the puck if you a on a penatly kill. That is to say you have a guy in the box and the other team has all 5 players on the ice. Then you can ice the puck without the whistle being blown, but the other team can not. Make sense? Really, Icing is easy.
Off sides is always hard to explain because there are USA hockey off sides and Canadian offsides (or tag up). Colleges and the NHL play tag up. Canadian youth hockey plays tag up. We American's don't and it's a pain when we go to Canada for tournaments.
I'm still learning all the penatly calls since my youngest sons leads his team in most minutes in the box. No, I'm not proud, it's kind of funny since last year he was the total opposite.
Should not get me going on hockey. It's kind of my life.
skkorjka - the sound that comes out of my mouth at hockey games when my kids do something they shouldn't (like take a stupid penality).
christina I am writing my NaNo in single space but when that is over I will be doing it in double if I can figure out how to change it. I want it double spaced for critiquing and editing. How's your nan0 coming? I had the worst day so far, I only did 2433 words. I may get some more in when DH comes home but that will go on tomorrow.
jen-t that is remarkable. I have only written 37 pages in 7 days, not even 7 hours. 35 pages in 5 hours--WOW, good for you.
Jen - I'm with your really smart DH on the stay off the ice for competitive purposes idea. Concussion - yowza. And oh yeah I totally get icing now. Especially the power play you may not get called icing call. Really cleared that right up!If you ever need a tennis or baseball primer I'm your gal - LOVE 'EM! still sad about my dang tigers. and would consider a May-December thing for Carlos Moya. although I think he is 25 and in my head I'm still 27 sometimes 33, so it is often startling when I'm confronted with visual evidence of my age. I'll never be ready for my close-up Mr. DeMille, unless it is an x-ray!
JJ: like andi said, listen to your smart DH. hey, we gang up on scope dope, and we'll do it to you. geez, you're a grown woman.
voting: do not get me started on this. apparently twelve of the people (that i know about so far) in my house haven't voted. ARGH!!! and the issue i've spent every saturday since i got up here working on is still being calculated. so far it's losing (thank bob), but it's a close race. ARGH!!! if someone hears a scream from up here tomorrow, it's me, and it means the issue passed. ARGH!!!!!!!!!!
I don't always listen well. Maybe I just won't tell you when I sign up to play. It's a lot of fun, really.
Andi - glad I could clear that up for you. Sorry, I hate baseball. I might watch the world series, but otherwise find it worse than watching paint dry. I'm soooooo glad both of my boys decided it wasn't the sport for them. The changed over to lacrosse...now that is a sport I don't get. And talk about violent? Geez, it's worse than hockey, really.
I love tennis. I play in an adult league...but they want to kick me out. Seriously, some of the "older" ladies don't like me. Something about being too competitive and I hit the ball to hard? Geez. Thought that was the point. Actaully, it all started with my overheads. Hey, if you are going to put it away, then dang it, do it right. At least I got good aim and I've never hit anyone. Two years ago I hit in the eye with the ball. When they got me to the eye doctor the doctor snorted and said he'd never picked yellow fuzz off someone's eyeball before. Talk about looking like someone decked you. I told everyone I got in a fight in hockey...they all believed me. Snort.
OH - being a grown woman doesn't make for a muture woman. I'm just like that middle child I love to complain about. Tell me no, or you can't, and i'll do my best to prove you wrong.
SDCB - remember - they were double spaced, not single. And I read through them this morning...geez, you people would have a field day. Oh my God! and I had to laugh quietly because people were still sleeping. But besides the typos, mis use of words, wrong words all together and few flying body parts...it wasn't awful. Not great, but not horrible.
christina: I write with 1.5 spacing, because I like to print off my MS to edit it, and it makes it easy to mark it up between the lines. It also takes up a little less paper when printing than double-space.
ecooxg everyone's candidly overwhelmed on Xavier's going.
Lynn said...
Edie told the cheating husband in the grocery store to go outside and face his lunatic gun-wielding wife because "sometimes you have to take one for the team."
LOL!!!
Thanks to Bob and Jenny, we will never be able to hear 'take one for the team' and keep a strait face ever again... well not me anyway.
Jen-t: When does your book come out in Australia?? I will be waiting :D
DUG, unfortunately I very rarely get to Brisbane, but I'm checking out the web site for the book shop, and hopefully there’s a way to do it by distance... I may have to enlist one of my brothers (the uncooperative one *sigh* - the helpful one doesn't live in Brissy)
OMG!! I'm on the web site for the book shop and their having a sale this month!! why don't I live in Brisbane, dammit?!!!
Jen, you remind me a lot of my sister ... except funnier. In addition to schlepping kids around for hockey (her DS#1 was in Chicago last weekend, I think) she recently took tennis lessons and joined a local league. But she doesn't have your nails and doesn't read romance. So sad.
Erica ... MAIL ORDER, DARL'N!
Lynn I did see that episode and yes I did a *snort* ... but I'm watching the show less and less overall. It seems to much like the same plot lines every season, just different characters.
So I voted last night and paid no attention to the media until this a.m. I found it interesting that supposedly few people voted and yet those who did had such a big impact. Goes to show that every vote really does count. And regardless of what side of the line you are on, I think its very encouraging, democracy-wise, that people used the vote to make such a strong statement. Beats the heck out of apathy, anyhow.
Wizards have donated quiet flamingos, kicking zebras.
mcb - I did the same voted; then waited for this morning for the post-mortem reporting. And apparently enough folks got out there to make some changes.
fellas are here working on the family room eye-sore, and the DH swears he won't travel until next Monday, after he gets home today from San Antonio. We'll just see.
Jen - I'm not a net person, but if given half a chance I'll run your butt off at the baseline. I got beaned once between the eyes, knocked me clean on my back, made my nose bleed,and blackened both my eyes. I was brand new to the league looking to make some friends after just moving to MI. Let's just say we did not do lunch after the match. Some of those tennis gals are ruthless, so much for the cute skirts, they want blood. And isn't lacrosse your basic hockey without ice, proper pads, better weaponry, and fewer penalties? My middle son is itching to play - but I'll just force his skinny body back into the baseball pants. You east-coast yanks and your lacrosse, hockey, field hockey and crew. I'll take my red-neck baseball, football and bass fishing!
MBC, does mail order require a credit card? If yes, then I'm going to remain book deprived,lol - at least until I move somewhere that has a book shop beyond the section in Big W.
Anyone want a slightly used, slightly dinged up DH? My dear, dear, sweet DH, bought me Hot Toy since I am sick. Then he proceeded to HIDE THE DAMN BAG (hence the slightly dinged up part).
Sigh. You know I'll keep him anyway, especially since the meds I'm on are making me much loopier than usual. My boss laughed at me for five straight minutes this morning because I called him back twice to give him my home number and then proceeded to say it wrong 3 times. I don't think I could find my head with both hands about now.
I went to the doctor to see if there is a reason I can't shake this coughing thing and found out I might have pneumonia (tests will be back in a little bit). Well, yay me.
Too bad my dog never quite got the grasp of fetch and find the @#$% bag with Hot Toy in it. I could read it during the moments I'm half-way conscious.
Falling asleep here, so I'd better post and be gone. What do they put in that medicine?
In my district, the challenger I supported lost by about 4000 votes - out of 220,000. I think "I should've made phone calls", but I probably wouldn't have made 4000, so it's probably not ALL my fault - but that's a small enough margin where, if a few more people here or there had voted, it would've made a difference.
I don't understand not voting - if you don't like the way things are, why not vote against them, and if you do, why not vote for them? We have about the lowest participation rate of any democracy, and I know that means it's less democratic, and I suspect it means something pretty unhealthy about our political system. One guy called in to a program yesterday and said that he'd learned about election abuses in high school, so he didn't vote - my response is: they MAY not count your vote if you DO vote, but they CAN'T if you don't! Sheesh.
We did not have any fancy electronic touch screens - same old flip the switches and pull the lever that I've used since I became an NY resident (that my dad says sounds like what he used when he first voted 45 years ago!).
Just for OH, I'm using the TT in addition - I hope your initiative failed (the initiative against which you've been working, not the character trait) and some of your apathetic housemates got out to vote. People failing to vote is why extremists can take over, sometimes!
I did watch for nearly 3 hours last night, but then went to bed (I was also reading a book, so it wasn't a WASTE of time).
Erica - depends on where you order from. There are more payment options out there in general than there used to be. I often use a 'check card' rather than credit so that the money comes straight from my checking account and I don't get nasty end of the month surprises. But I would place a call to that store and see if you can't work a deal. Maybe they can invoice you or something? Hey you gotta do what you gotta do to get your books.
Twinkletoes (you're stuck with it now) - my philosophy on voting is this: If I don't vote then what right do I have to complain? As the saying goes, if you aren't part of the solution, then you're part of the problem.
Last weekend while visiting DS&DIL,a question was asked regarding how to tell a good friend that the book she had self published is really not well written. I read the first 4 chapters and could not finish it.
It was painful to read. But yet the folks that printed it told her how great it is and how they cannot wait to print the next one.
She is a very nice gal but after reading this blog I know how difficult good writing is but how can that be related to those who are being told what amounts to a bunch of lies?
Any thoughts would be great...thanks
jenb
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My parents taught me that voting is not only a privilege, but a duty. So I dutifully go to the polls every election even if the choices are sucky vs. suckier, vindictive vs. slimy, and butthead vs. crook.
Elections always remind me of the idea in The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy that anyone who wants to be in power should on no account be allowed to be. Absolute power corrupts absolutely, etc.
I'm with everyone on not voting...My DW and I went to computer class and voted on way home. Even though registered one way we purty much voted the other way. The choices sometimes are not great.
Watched returns hit and miss while reading. Read the paper this morning to see final results. Oh well next time.
dyyfxjrh...blue
did your YEX finally Xtinguish Jenny's, Robert's hopes
Btuda whined, "My dear, dear, sweet DH, bought me Hot Toy since I am sick. Then he proceeded to HIDE THE DAMN BAG (hence the slightly dinged up part)."
Doesn't he realize this is grounds for withholding marital benefits like freshly cooked meals and clean socks and underwear?
Hope the tests come back negative and that you start getting well soon. And if you figure out how to get the dog to track down that book and "fetch", let the rest of us in on the trick, eh?
jenb: I admit I am speaking as someone who self-publishes, but sometimes those publishers say they can't wait to publish an author's next book for one reason: they want her money. (And yes, people have been known to call me a cynical b****.) And not all of them offer editorial services, either. Of course, it all could just be a matter of taste. She could be a great writer, but just not to your particular liking. Which is fine. There are tons of best sellers out there that I threw against the wall (Bridget Jones' Diary, for one).
Now me personally, I encourage people to tell me what they didn't like about my books and why. It makes me a better writer. How well does this person handle criticism? And if you plan on offering criticism, Maybe get her talking about it with sort of vague questions like "Why did you chose to write about XYZ?" then see where the conversation goes from there.
btuda - sorry to hear you are sick, but good that you have a diagnosis so that it can be treated. Feel better soon.
When you write, is the document single or double spaced? I find that single space works best for me while I am writing but am curious to know what works best for others and why.
I always write double-spaced. That's how I track word/page count. It's also easier for me when I edit. I believe it's also easier on the eyes of my critique partners.
Funny things while waiting to vote…. Thomas Jefferson Middle School is where we vote. Why the Thomas? Is there another famous Jefferson? Then there was the calendar for November. Prominently displayed was a week of intercession. Well, I didn’t think the kids were that bad, and I also think schools still must observe separation of church and state. Then there was a picture of Mr. Jefferson decked out in a Revolutionary War uniform. So, don’t the teachers have enough smarts to know he wasn’t in the war? And now that we must have no chads, we were filling in the ovals with a black BALL POINT PEN. Lots of scribbling to fill in the blank. How’s about a pencil with fat lead?
pzyig: Yep, that's what I felt like doing.
txplmgb: But I didn't know how to do that.
Christina: I do most of my writing on my AlphaSmart (because there are no games on it and it is not connected to the internet, and because it is portable and I can sit anywhere). I think the lines are single spaced but I can only see about six of them at a time -- which is fine because when I'm writing, I'm not looking at what I've written. Then I download it onto my computer for editing (and this is usually where the "real" writing takes place) and that ms is always double spaced and properly formatted, for many of the same reasons JenT mentioned.
JenB: I guess I'd ask yourself whether anyone is hurt by your friend having self-published a less than stellar work. I'll bet she's just tickled pink, isn't she? And so what? I've learned the hard way (at least I hope I've learned) that offering a critique when it hasn't been asked for is a Really Bad Idea. And you just never know, maybe after self-publishing a half dozen or so of those she'll get good enough at it that some publisher will come along and want to buy one. We all have to start somewhere, and a little encouragement along the way can often make a big difference. But wait until she asks. And if she does ask, point her toward her local RWA chapter. You don't even have to tell her she has a lot to learn, just tell her you've heard it's a friendly supportive group whose members will be more than happy to share their experience. Really. And I only offer that advice because you asked.
bw
GatorPerson said...
Funny things while waiting to vote….
Flyers lining the hallways at the local high school promoting NaNoWriMo.
Asian couple, probably new citizens, who came to vote. Unfortunately it turned out they hadn't registered yet. However the volunteer was great, had registration forms available and explained that they could vote next time.
JenB ... I think BCB has the right of it (which will probably go to her head). And yes, you could mention that you've heard a lot of writers talk about how great RWA is for networking and supporting new authors. Even if she doesn't write romance (you didn't say). Don't rain on her parade unless she asks you to. Reality will do that soon enough.
romance writing people never beg pardons.
MCB proclaimed: I think BCB has the right of it (which will probably go to her head)
Oh yes, absolutely. It will no doubt make my poor little head explode from pure happiness and then I'll have to borrow one of Jen's until mine can grow back.
Can you tell my boss is not at work today? Is it time to go home yet? I'm leaving early.
bw
oh look, blogger is talking about us:
cbqmrevr
I'm with you twinkle toes. Here in Oz it's compulsory to vote. As in they fine you if you dont. Mind you people still dont or they go and do a donkey vote as a protest but we have someting like a 90% turn out.
My mother always told me that it was an especially stupid act for women not to vote. It wasn't always a right or a priveledge for us to vote. Men used to think we were too dumb, too delicate to know what to do or have a useful opinion. WE had to fight for it. Women marched and got thrown in prison and shunned by their families and force fed when they went on hunger strikes and all kinds of horrible things just so I could go to a poll and put my x in a box today. And I for one would not dishonour their memory by throwing away something they fought so hard for.
Also here in Oz we use a piece of paper and a pencil. Thats it. 99% of the time results are known by midnight. Yes, we are smaller, not as many people, but it's all proportionate.
I for one am pleased those who voted yesterday, sent a powerful message. Thank you.
Downundergal said: "I for one would not dishonour their memory by throwing away something they fought so hard for".
You have summed it up in a nutshell. Voting is so often a choice between one repellent candidate and another repellent one, but in the past, so many people - not just women, but further back, also males who were not wealthy, not landowners - were denied that privilege. It is insulting and disrespectful to them to throw it away.
None of the parties in my country has policies that come anywhere near my own political convictions, but I always vote, because not to do so would be an insult to those who longed for the chance to do so in the past.
We use pencil and paper, too. Seems to work okay.
;-)
I still remember the first time I voted. The polling place was in a garage just a few houses down the street from us, and I and my mom walked down together on our respective ways to work/school. Two elderly women and a man, ditto, were running it.
As each person walked up and was checked out in the registry, the first woman would tell the second woman the person's party. It was all Republicans until it got to us. When she looked my mother up, she made a horrible face and said with extreme disgust, "Democrat." The people behind us in line murmured in a not particularly friendly fashion.
My mom and I rolled our eyes at each other and tried not to laugh, knowing what was coming next. She looked me up. Same look, same delivery, only moreso, "Another Democrat!" By now the folks behind us were hissing and getting quite outspoken. Yikes. I don't think it's even legal for them to announce your party affiliation. We both voted as fast as we could and got out of there before things became really ugly.
What's funniest about it is that this was in San Francisco. SF is a Democratic stronghold, always has been. So, how did we wind up in perhaps the only heavily Republican neighborhood in the city???
And when are they going to get wise and let people have the option of voting "No" on candidates???
vuloztbd (blue)
in Russian, "speed to be determined"
Because if we were allowed to vote "no" on the candidates, too many political offices would go unfilled! :)
Hm. Now that I think about that, maybe it's not such a bad idea... We could save money on the budget by having fewer politicians to pay.
Clearly, this is crucial information you all need to know:
Yesterday was National Bittersweet Chocolate with Almonds day. Today is a
big one ... Abet and Aid Punsters day, National Parents as Teachers day,
and [my favorite] Cook Something Bold and Pungent day.
I could go on, but because it's World Kindness Week I think I'll stop
zvvtcdi - clearly, the last name of someone who waited until the last minute before deciding to buy a vowel
isn't today beautiful? just beautiful? my issue didn't pass, thank the bob, and then, well, let's just say i'm happy.
ok, you want scary? earlier today, i go around telling people Rumsfeld resigned (among other updates) and they're like "who?" so then i explain he was Sec. of Defense. "oh, what does that do?"
*bash head against wall*
TT: should have seen me yesterday. i'm on my friend's laptop watching the numbers slowly change and yelling out loud and everybody around me is going "shut-up, we're watching Nip/Tuck". right. TV vs election, election loses. and walking around yesterday, i had my "Do It in the Voting Booth" shirt, buttons for my issue and "rock the vote", and a sign i pinned to myself against my intiative too. i looked like a crack-pot, but people asked me questions about it so...
i basically look at it like this: except for rich, white, land-owning males, everyone had to work to get the vote (some struggles longer and harder than others) so USE IT. even if, as g-g said, it's between "sucky vs. suckier, vindictive vs. slimy, and butthead vs. crook." (LMAO, BTW)
btuda: i think i'm missing something. if he wasn't going to give it to you, why'd your DH buy Hot Toy? cause that is just wrong. esp when you're sick (feel better!).
mary: LMAO
OH Go check out my blog. I have an excerpt on it for you. A kiss. Mwah!
OH, I feel your pain. (Please stop banging your head against the wall, by the way. I'm not sure we have that much aspirin on hand.)
I took a biology class at CSM (Club San Mateo, also known by a few people as the College of San Mateo) when the lab had a newt in a tank. I suggested we name him "Gingrich" -- and everybody said "huh?" "Newt Gingrich," says I, "like the [then] Speaker of the House? The man third in line if someone bumped off the Pres and the Vice Pres?"
Nobody knew what the heck I was talking about. (Okay, BCB, I know that's the normal state of affairs, but in this case they darn well should have.)
Personally, I think if Robert Redford had called more people, they might have gone out and voted. I suggest we get more celebrities to call people up and tell them to vote. (Not how to vote, just tell them to vote.) I mean, what if Bob and Jenny called all the CBs and told them to vote? (Well, of course, /we/ all did, but what about that last lurker in the back corner of the attic? No, the other one. Yes, you over there. Do you really want Bob to get out his pinky?)
lxkgw - Let xenophobes know great wisdom!
So, Bob (redford, not mayer) called again last night. Probably won't be hearing from him again anytime soon.
We had an aquaintance who self published the most amazingly bad book. He was so excited, and going around getting it promoted places. This book was bad not just because I might not like the style or story but because entire sentences did not make any sense. Not to mention paragraphs. Also it was like he had used global search and replace to put in certain words (e.g., adverbs) that did not really go with the other words (e.g., nouns) in the sentence. They were really interesting words, just not all that helpful in the context. It was pretty funny.
I never offered any suggestions or help to that friend because he did not ask for any. I was rather impressed that he had finished a book (more than I can say), and as noted above, perhaps he will get better. Somehow. Not sure how, but maybe.
Blogger has been giving me a very hard time of it tonight. *sigh*
I agree that if celebs did those recorded calls, sans party affiliation, instead of the pols more people would likely get out to vote. I got 2 calls from our current governor. Not the same. He lost anyway. Maybe if he'd had Redford do it?
We have our share of ignorance but I do think a little less here in the DC area than in a lot of places. You don't have to care about politics to recognize a few names ... its in the air or something. But I do have a story. My parents are from a tiny, somewhat isolated town in Pennsylvania. People there by and large don't pay much attention to current events. So anyway its the 1970s and the big issue in politics then was the SALT talks. My mother's older sister was very puzzled about this. What was the big deal about salt? (for those of you under a certain age, it stood for Strategic Arms Limitation Treaty) It was in your history books. Yes it was. Go look.
Pitching javots, Mayer knew, roused Jenny.
Mary - I had no idea it was bittersweet chocolate with almonds day, but it might explain my absolute obsession for those dang Hershey dark choc. with almonds nuggets. And I'm already noting this day on next year's calendar - I've got some cabbage rolls with sauerkraut already picked out!
Yesterday was my wonderful dad's birthday, as you may recall we are not politically aligned, I tried to call early yesterday to wish him a happy birthday, much to my anquish he wasn't home. I had to call today and got lovely 15 minute lecture on how his day went to #ell in a handbasket. aaahhh I love that man, but I am thanking bob, it was only mid-term elections, cause I really think he could stroke out otherwise.
mcb - I clearly remember SALT, we lived in DC then.
btuda - hope you are taking deep breathes soon. Pneumonia is awful!
OH - you go with your crackpot self! My dorm then apartment door was always a clear indication of my political ideation.
As I live in Newt's neck of the woods, my sweet boys are constantly having to explain to their peers what a democrat is, yes even my 8yo, who was the only child to vote democrat in the class mock election.
OFF TOPIC - blatant bragging, the only two youth football teams from our park still playing, that means Superbowl, have my sons on them. There were 15 teams, ages 6-11, only 8's and 10's made playoffs, and my boys teams are still in it. My DS8 had 2 touchdowns tonight in his playoff game. Ridicuously proud, don't encourage me, not sure I like the super sports mom roll. But tonight was incredible, they won in double overtime, 13-12. Just writing now to get my heart rate back to normal.
If anyone ever needs a reader I happily volunteer, and I'll be as honest as you want me to be. I'm known for my encouraging demeanor while being honest. Plus am I not the target audience - bright, a little bored, adore the written word, and not easily amused?
Sure, just use ripe plums.
Btuda- hope you feel better. I have bronchitis and you have to feel horrible.
VERY STRANGE HAPPENING- OT
I went to the Doctor. It was the same day that Bob told us that Jenny was in the bosom of the family. (My bosom is in the same town!) I pull in to a parking space and look at the car facing me. I kid you not, the seat covers had cherries on them and said "WILD CHERRY" on them.
AND then! I look at the car beside me and it has cherries hanging from the rear view mirror.
I have to admit I got out and looked to see if those cars were from our county or not. I thought maybe someone was taking a road trip and had gotten temporarily misplaced.
I was afraid to tell the doctor that I was channeling Jenny Crusie so I just let her listen to me wheeze.
Also had a "friend" who self published a book. She sent out flyers and did interviews and stuff and book signings. Every one of my other friends said it was terrible and very very depressing. So I didn't buy it. And when she asked if I had read it, I told her that I didn't buy it because I was only buying happy books at that time.
Hey- it was all I could think of in the grocery asile.
Wow!, CMS....
My first kiss was nothing like that...I was maybe 12 and she was a year older....very soft, chaste touching of lips....the one and only time...memories...
Just read "Hot Toy". delightfully Jenny...snarky herione, not quite with-it hero that comes thru for her....a good read.
uudvbbd...blue
upper, under downward venues, Bob, Bob, donewithbookyet
Hey Louis, sounds like maybe you could help me write my kissing scenes."soft chaste touching of lips". That was good.
Okay I am going to brag a little and hope that at the end of NaNo, on Nov.30, I am not sorry that I did, but I reached 25,066 words today and some of them might even be quality scenes. I am trying for quality as well as quantity but because of the "kissing scenes" will probably need major editing after NaNo. I can't understand how I can do snarky sister scenes so easily but the love scenes are a problem. Hmm. Wonder what that means? /,D Good luck to all the others doing NaNo.
b'tuda hope the xrays and tests are negative for pneumonia. That is nasty. Good luck and get better quickly.
hiqxuyns Here in Queensland, Xavier uses yex non-stop.
vcjrh Vera Cruz Jenny, really helps.
CMS: you are writing on our new blog, right? besides the kiss one, which i love (ummm, the scenes you were going to send me seem to have fallen into postal wasteland; maybe send them again?), i read the pov one too. good stuff. other comments on blog too, just wanted everybody to make sure to GO LOOK AT CMS's BLOG.
MCB: i'll have you know i knew what SALT stands for and it's place in the history books.
wapa: wait. was it the Cherry's car or not? a CB's? we'll, i now know how i want to decorate mine. if you see a bald guy in LA driving a car with cherries, it's probably my dad. (he's borrowing it while i'm on campus)
scope dope: you kick ass
sad news: 8 more states passed amendments to ban gay marriage. but Arizona didn't change its constitution to define marriage as one-man, one-woman, so go Arizonians.
night.
Okay - so I'm confused, zaza. Do you actually have to belong to a political party to vote over there? And if so do yuo have to vote for them everytime? Forever stuck with a party that may disappoint/disillusion you badly?
Sad about the gay mariage situation OH. Jeez...
Our pollies are just taking a conscious vote on lifting the ban on stem cell research. I have everything crossed.
So, this is what want to know - is it going to be a Hilary/Nancy ticket in 08?
ohohuka -
orange hands, orange hands u kick ass
....or something hawaiin
I'm blushing from all the compliments. It's good to know that on paper, I can kiss. : ) Louis read my blog!
I found tons of cherry jewelry here but nothing for my car. Maybe I should just paint over the primer...
DownUnderGal said...
Okay - so I'm confused, zaza. Do you actually have to belong to a political party to vote over there?
Not Zaza but I'll answer. Not exactly. You have to register to vote and you have to register as something but that something can be independent, rather than democrat or republican. The reason for this is the primary elections when the 2 major parties sort out who they are really going to run for each office. The date for primary elections varies somewhat by state, and some states allow 'open' primaries (not limited to party affiliation) while many have 'closed' primaries (you can only vote within your chosen party affiliation).
But in the General Election, when we vote as a nation on November 2, then no, you do not have to limit your vote to any one political party.
Confused? So are we. But somehow we manage to keep from imploding under the weight of our own confusing regs.
Sad about the gay mariage situation OH. Jeez...
That pretty much says it all.
morning. going to catch an hour nap before class.
there are other sad things, but i'm pretty sure gay marriage was the one we all agreed on.
DUG: :) re: verification
DUG - apologies, that should have read November 7.
Zaza - I first voted in CA as well, and I think the different parties had different rules as to the style of the voting booth (curtained or not? something like that), so poll workers did have to indicate to which party one belonged. This was a while back, but...
DUG - It is also possible to change one's party registration. My parents almost always voted for the same person, though they were members of different political parties. Sometimes members of my Dad's party, sometimes my Mom's (and nearly always someone who lost for President!). Then, in 1992, my Dad gave up and changed his party affiliation. He's not 100% with the current party, but he's virtually 100% against the one he left. I don't know what they did this week - my Mom was making calls for a challenger, but my Dad, though he doesn't like the incumbent, didn't think the challenger was ready for prime time (she lost pretty substantially).
Congrats, SDCB, on your amazing productivity! wapakwoman and btuda - I hope you both feel better soon.
ikuzwp: incestuous karyogamy utilizes zygotes' wellness protection
Oh, and DUG - my guess is NOT a Hillary/ Nancy ticket. Hillary and Obama would be very cool, but unlikely (esp. since Hillary is originally from Illinois, I believe). They usually go for all kinds of diversity (except, generally, sex and race, but in this case, probably they will, at least, vary the sex) - geographical, types of issues/ strengths, and degree of conservatism, to draw as many potential constituents as possible. No one on either side is standing out to me, yet - I think a lot of people got banged up in this campaign cycle.
But I never know, so it could be!
dtwqc: democracy tries, wisdom queries consequences
Hi all. I'm conscious today, so thanks for everyone's get well soon's.
Found the bag with Hot Toy. It was in DSS's room with the guinea pig bedding we bought the same night. I'm no Columbo, but that was my major accomplishment for the day. That and talking to Ellen and Oprah like we're best buds. Anywho, read Hot Toy and laughed/coughed all the way through it.
Still no word from the x-ray results yet. I guess it's time to go harass my doctor again.
cjhjz: Cherries just hilariously justify zaniness.
btuda, for a different take on this, a positive for pneumonia at least would mean they knew what it was and how to treat it. Whatever it is, though, wish you and wapakawoman (and anyone else who needs it - Margaret?) returning good health.
Scope Dope Cherrybomb said...
I reached 25,066 words today and some of them might even be quality scenes.
Wahoo! You go, Penny! No reason not to brag when you've got a wordcount like that after only one week. Keep it up and you'll make single title length by the end of the month. Lots of good stuff to edit. Like La Norah says, you can fix anything...but a blank page.
vmajka (red)
the mother of someone whose first name starts with a "V"
I don't know what bob is complaining about with seeing CRUSIE all the way across the store -- HE has an entry on Wikipedia and Jenny does not.
G&T
Oh, I finally saw Santa Baby at my local supermarket this a.m.. Mine came nearly a week ago, and I've only read it 3 times.
Someone should get on that Wikipedia thing.
gcvvsggn: Giving children various vegetable servings? good gracious, no!
Wah! I probably won't be able to get my hands on Santa Baby until I am home again in late December. Ok, end of whine.
G&T - you're right! But is it accurate? Seems to be it needs editing. And jeez we could all collaborate on Jenny's. We could make their Wiki entries a CB project!
Well jeez, I think that kid of sux.
We have to register to vote too but all they need is our name, date of birth and address.
Where my political loyalties lie is none of their god damn business!!!
Although I do like the idea of having a set date every how many ever years to go to the polls. That way govt's cant go to the polls when it's politically expedient like ours does.
The last election was a classic example. JOhn Howard was dead in the water and we all knew he had to call an election soon because its the law and he was so gonna lose and then a boat load of poor Afghani refugees arrived and hey presto "we will decide who comes to our country" - he was back in the game!!! That was a really, really awful time.
Our political terms last approx 3 years.
Have to say - I always get teary when I vote. Think it's the sufragette in me.
OH - that verification was a gift. Couldn't believe it when I saw it ;-)
I was able to get Santa Baby read in between stuff happening in the kitchen. Only one read-through so far though. I'll do a re-read soon. Loved it.
We got the range installed and have already done some cooking on it. The dishwasher is there, but not installed yet since the cabinet it goes in is not there yet. The refrigerator came out of the box damaged, so it got sent back. The new one will arrive Saturday. Next week is the big push for cabinets and countertops.
Downundergal - well, you can say you're independent - but then you don't get to help the party decide who their nominee is. And sometimes that is what leads to the choice being "sucky and suckier". The Founders were very concerned about factionalism - but our system seems to have evolved into a pretty toxic and polarized one fairly quickly.
Yep, the first Tuesday after the first Monday in November in even-numbered years. It gives the politicians something to aim their "October surprise" for. On the plus side, you may have a shorter election cycle than we do - our presidential campaigns are YEARS long, with the "home stretch" being about 11 excruciating months.
I find voting exhilarating. A pleasant glow of "duty done" and "this is my chance to make things better". I might feel differently if I had to wait in the rain all day, but I don't think I've ever had to wait for more than a few minutes; I almost always vote first thing in the morning. And then am in suspense for the next 24 hours or so.
I got a double g in my last verification, but couldn't manage to make an intelligent sentence with Glamour-geek in it. And it seemed wrong to have a dumb one.
Congrats on the kitchen progress, K.L. - may the remainder be swift and trouble-free!
xmheem: Xavier mildly hmphed, evenly expediting mayhem
All right CBs, cross your fingers that I get the part time position advertized at the library. I just submitted my CV et al. I could really use the extra cash, but my vanishing act in December may be a bit of a problem if this is not a term time only job.
But I do realize that having your fingers crossed makes it difficult to type, so any other good luck gesture is welcome too. (No, you in the corner, that gesture does not mean good luck. Put that finger down!)
Christina, I'll keep my toes crossed for you. Hope that will help. And there is always that one in the corner. Just stick out your tongue. That is the mature CB response.
I found that funny NaNo article I mentioned. The link is dead, not surprising since it's from the Philadelphia Inquirer. But here's the first paragraph, which perfectly embodies the don't edit policy:
"It was a dark and stormy night adn (Typo! Don't correct. Keep writing) three shots rang out in the crowded bazaar in Rio (Do they have bazaars in Rio? Stop thinking. Keep typing) which caused Detective Leopold Brown to pause and remove his sunglasses. (Sunglasses? It's night! Move on.)"
Still makes me giggle. That's by Beth Gillin, and it's from November of 2003, if anyone's keeping track.
Good luck Christina. Hope the kitchen gets finished without any more hitches, k.l.
amdwurfv (blue)
All Mayer did was undulate right feverishly, Valerie. LOL! The idea of Bawb undulating feverishly. Heh.
G&T said: HE has an entry on Wikipedia
But his is up for possible removal because it doesn't satisfy the "notability guidelines".
Would it be better to have been there and removed, or never to have been at all?
Now there's a question I can't even begin to think about until I have had my medicinal manhattan and a piece of cheese on a cracker.
Hunting for books to take with me while spending time with my mother who will be recuperating from surgery.
The dilemma is this: I have time to go shopping tonight, but if I buy them tonight -- Hot Toy -- it won't wait for the plane next week.
Sigh.
G&T
Good luck Christina! How could they not want a CB for their library position?
My first kiss, as a teen, was unwanted, unexpected and unpleasant. How's that for a memory? :)
G&T sez: Now there's a question I can't even begin to think about until I have had my medicinal manhattan and a piece of cheese on a cracker.
I love this phraseology. Thank you for the chuckle!
djr, would his article become more 'notable' if it got a lot of hits? .... hint, hint
I'm working my way through Laurie R. King's Marry Russell series and am currently reading JUSTICE HALL. For those unfamiliar, these stories take place in the early part of the 20th century, just after WWI. Really really well done.
I've picked up a lot of trivia over the years through reading, surprising people sometimes at the stuff I know. Like Martha Grimes' Diane Demorney, I know just enough about a lot of subjects to sound more intelligent than I am. And yes I am going somewhere with this.
In this book there is a country house scene; it is after dinner and the men are retiring to their port and cigars. King has included a bit about a ritual surrounding the decanting of port that I did not know about before. Apparently the custom of the time was to use hot tongs, followed by a cold cloth, to snap the neck of the port bottle. Following which the liquid was decanted through a sieve. For all I know they still do it that way.
So now I have another bit of mostly useless trivia to add to my collection and someday impress someone with. You just never know.
MCB: most of my knowledge (and yes, most of it trivial) comes from reading. but hey, when you can throw it out you sound really cool.
btuda: glad your sounding ok.
christina: Good Luck. toes are crossed.
scope dope: just cause i'm not sure if i congratulated you or not, congrats on word count.
TT (sorry diane, it's sticking): today at breakfast i pulled the "voting is a priviledge you didn't always have and as such..." sometimes i wonder if they pay my roomie to come in and kill me at night. (she'd probably let them, too)
zaza: i once wrote a short story that way. did Beth win?
KL: congrats on kitchen.
djr: *snort* let me go check out this wiki thing. :)
just checked out wiki. i think the reason Bob may be kicked off is because it belongs under wikisource (library reference) as opposed to wikipedia. (just spent time difference reading rules). so, should we edit Bob or move him, and where should we add Jenny?
and yep, i just opened an account so we can add an article on Jenny.
OH, Beth was the reporter who wrote the article in the Inquirer. I've always wondered if she wrote that paragraph or if Chris Baty did. ;+)
fervky (blue)
Polish version of fervour?
psitn (red)
Well, that's just rude!
OH, I think Wikisource is a free library deal, not meant for articles. I think Bob's entry lacks external references, etc.
zee Mayer zays talk quietly.
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gjglb - Glamour-geek Joined Gym; Lifting Bob
MCB - Justice Hall is one of my VERY favorite Mary Russells. WWI was a very terrible war. I find the characters and mores in the novel very moving. I had heard about the port thing, but hadn't remembered it 'til I read that.
I picked up the last of the "Crazy" books by Tara Jantzen last evening - enjoyable, even if they didn't really get into the woman's issues as deeply as they could have. It probably would've been anticlimactic...
I can't believe how close it's getting to T-day and then the Christmas holidays. Ack! We're nearly halfway into November and I'm NOT READY.
Just a little existential angst to end the morning.
Oops. I got visited and then wandered off for lunch, so you can begin your afternoon with my November stress.
I am confused. The notability guideline on Wikipedia says that someone is notable if:
Published authors, editors and photographers who received multiple independent reviews of or awards for their work
Wouldn't that be enough for Bob or Jenny?
I agree with MCB that what it needs are more external sources, e.g., articles about him, reviews of his books, why his books are important, e.g., that series that is really the basis for Lost, etc. That he was the first (or last) to apply his military discipline to writing or teaching writing, etc.
Also, don't you think it would establish his notability if the link to the skirt picture was up there. Huh, Huh??
ypscho - Jen T spelling the name of that movie about Norman Bates
Kay t wrote: "ypscho - Jen T spelling the name of that movie about Norman Bates"
***SNORT!**** I'd been having a rotten day until I read that. Thanks!
Back to hitting my head against the wall.
Jen-T updated us ... Back to hitting my head against the wall.
Which one?
Usually Jenny questions Zack's ultimatums, asking Mayer "gripe?"
re wiki> okay, another problem is that Bob is not listed with the category American novelist so he does not show up in THAT list of hundreds of authors.
Can you tell that I have the day off? See this is what it would be like if I did not have to go to that office everyday!!!
Actually I did spend some time this week researching wikis for my work. Ha! fun, but I did not really get into the whole wikipedia protocol. i did get caught up with a NPOV controversy on the article concerning wikifarms.
I know I am speaking another language. Jen-T beam me up.
ftqga - isn't that french for I'm tired?
MCB - All five of them.
Sorry Kay T, the light blub (did that one on purpose) is out. I'm alone in the dark. No, I'm not scared. Norman Bates is here keeping company.
just don't take a shower.
Where are dee and bryan hiding? Are they so busy writing they don't have time to be with us? Whining now.
Hit a wall today. I knew it. I knew if I bragged I would pay. I have not written word one today. It is now 5:41 p.m. and I am blogging not writing. I am going to eat a pizza and hope that wondrous scenes are written on the pepperoni. Just got two emails about the two week slump associated with NaNo. Don't want a slump I want to write copious words. I read on Zaza's blog, I think, somebody's anyhow, that she could write 20,000-30,000 words in a weekend. WTH I feel like such a slouch.
Maybe this will help. We got a new office chair today. High back, leather, manager's chair. Now I know how Jen felt. It supports my back much better than the other one did.
blue sgwhzyi
Since going writing have zesty yec invisible. (to me).
Question, particularly hoping Louis and Bryan give their answers. A meeting is coming up where the president (female) is expected, if she doesn't get her way, to start crying. The men in the group are already concerned and want everyone to softpeddle so she won't cry. Me? I'd slamdunk the manipulative b!@#$. So the question: Why is it that many men will do whatever is necessary to keep a woman from crying, or to stop her from continuing to cry?
I know we all joke about it, but I'd like to know what's really going on. I've never understood it.
tnnjdtoh: To Noshe Nachos Just Doesn't Take OH (long).
cary sez: gjglb - Glamour-geek Joined Gym; Lifting Bob
Wow. I don't know my own strength...
gatorperson sorry but I just LMAO at your question. Are you channeling me? I just wrote a whole scene between the hero and heroine where they discuss crying, sad tears and 'happy' tears and just crying in general. They had just been to the movies to see Casablanca at which she cried and cried at the final scene where Rick makes Ilsa get on the plane.
I don't know but I think the answer to your question is that the men don't know what to do or what is expected of them when a women cries. Just my guess.
I finally wrote a few words, a couple of scenes but way below what i usually write. Must do better tomorrow. The pepperoni only had those two scenes.
red ywjty
Yex written (by) Jenny truly yexxy.
GP - good question. Now women don't panic at tears because usually we get it. Unless they're unreasonable (like a crying pres.) then we just b***h slap her ... figuratively if she's a boss.
Maybe Scope has the right of it and it has to do with men not being cryers so they don't know how to handle it. Bryan? Louis? Don't ask Bob. We already know how he feels about that.
Women's tears...
They make us uncomfortable...feel as if we have done something to cause them (probably did). ...even though we may not have been the cause. We want to comfort the lady that is crying even if that is the last thing that she wants. Tears can be a catharsis to bring all right with their world.
Men can cry too.....maybe not outwardly but inside the tears are there.
nvooh...red
women crying
Louis is profound and makes sense, as always. I bow to your wisdom.
Well, why do women placate when men get angry? I'm sure not all of you do this, but it's the same basic impulse - to lower the emotional temperature. And some women get angry instead of crying - they're both responses to feeling out of control.
Louis said ...
Men can cry too.....maybe not outwardly but inside the tears are there.
Profound indeed. Thank you Louis.
good answer louis.
scope: hope today's a better writing day.
JJ: leave your heads alone. you'll need them, sooner or later.
Thanks orangehands although I feel like crap and have terrible chills I did do better today.
louis you are a real man, man. Thank you for your answer. I see you being profound on JCF every so often too.
green yccxm
Yex criticism completes Xavier's manuscript.
Scope Dope Cherrybomb said...
I read on Zaza's blog, I think, somebody's anyhow, that she could write 20,000-30,000 words in a weekend. WTH I feel like such a slouch.
Yep, that was me. But what you don't mention is that I said I'm slow at the beginning of the month. Then something clicks, and it all just pours out. I don't do that kind of word count on a regular basis. I did do my first ~80k book in under a month, but I was writing full time, really doing a Nora. ;+)
uqnusm (red)
Ugly queens never use sexy makeup. ;+)
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