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Thursday, November 02, 2006

SHE WROTE: And now for something completely different . . .

So we’re still working on Agnes because I don’t write as fast as Bob, but my rewrites are fabulous so I’m worth the wait, and then Bob sighs and follows along behind me and cleans up any inconsistencies I’ve written into his action scenes and tries not to scream . . .

Where was I?

Right, we’re still working on Agnes but we’re there. I mean, the book is done, we’re just making it better. And this weekend we’re going to talk to the Chesapeake RWA, and if you’re there you’re going to see us probably wrangling over it still, but it’ll be over the polish because basically, it’s done. Not done enough that I can legitimately heave a sigh of relief because I can’t let go of it yet, I know I can make it better, and Bob, if you put the thumb screws to him, would also admit that we’re making it better, although frankly, he’d have been so much happier if we’d turned it in weeks ago because he hates missing a deadline more than he hates having to discuss a relationship, but even Bob will tell you that it’s better, especially since he got to put the bomb back in. Which is kind of a spoiler, so don’t tell anybody.

Speaking of spoilers, about next year. We’re both going to be working on our solo books for awhile before we begin shaping up the new collaboration, although Bob, being the workaholic he is, wants to start wargaming it next weekend (“I remember when I used to call that ‘brainstorming’,” she said with a sigh) when he’s in Cincinnati to do the last stop on the Living the Dream tour, but we have another collaboration in mind, too: He Wrote, She Wrote 2007.

(Stop screaming, CBs, it’s not going to be like this year’s, you can’t play on it, which is why we made you set up your own space.)

He Wrote, She Wrote 2007 is not going to be a journal because we figure the world has heard all it needs of our personal travails in collaborating on and promoting our novels since, frankly, the ensuing years are just going to be more of the same. It’s not like we’re going to mature. So we sat in my living room several weeks ago and decided it was time to do something Educational and Interesting instead of Whiny and Self-Involved.

Which is why the 2007 blog is going to be called He Wrote, She Wrote: How To Write Fiction. Or He Wrote, She Wrote: How to Write a Novel. Or He Wrote She Wrote: Damn It Bob, We Can’t Call It How To Write Because We’re Not Doing Non-Fiction. So we have some bugs to work out. But the plan is good. Every Sunday one of us will post on a writing topic, and then the following Thursday, the other person will post a response to that post and whatever showed up in the comments on writing. Anything in the comments that’s not on writing gets deleted. Think of it as a class. If you chat, we kick you out. That’s because it’s hard for people to scroll through chat to get the writing stuff. We’ll be taking a semester break in August to promote Agnes and go to Australia and New Zealand, and during that time we’ll talk about publishing and promoting. Then in September, it’s back home and back to writing topics again.

We have no idea how this will work. It may be that we’ll post and there’ll be crickets, but that’s okay, we’re used to amusing ourselves. Or maybe it’ll turn into a really great writing forum, and we’ll get some exciting arguments started. Bob’s already planning something on Why Prologues Are Good. That’s going to be one ugly week.

Bob will come in here and blog later with the schedule we worked out, but we’ll probably change that, too. And frankly, I think you should weigh in when he does, because my argument was that it should be all about writing, no publishing stuff, and he said no, the publishing stuff was important, and then it got heated, so if you see anything missing from the list of writing topics, feel free to point out that the missing topic is more important than something in the publishing list. Really.

Oh, and eventually, we’ll rewrite the whole thing and elaborate on the topics and make it into a book. Maybe. Who knows? We thought that about this year’s blog, too, and then it became The Blog That Ate Chicago, and we wandered off and forgot about the book idea entirely. Unless Bob is plotting something behind my back.

Going back to Agnes now. It has no prologue and never will.

150 Comments:

At 2/11/06 1:14 AM, Anonymous said...

WOW - never been first before!!
Gonna miss the banter
LTD in Kansas
Sissy

 
At 2/11/06 1:15 AM, Scope Dope Cherrybomb said...

There are advantages to staying up so late. You get Jenny's new post.

I have kept quiet all this time about the fact that Bob said in New Jersey "we have plans" when I complained about you kicking us out of the basement. Now I know what he was referring to. Teaching us about writing would be good too. I guess we could chat on our blog and come learn on yours. That would be okay too. We just didn't want to lose you.

I thought you might like to know that I needed the name of a little boy for my story on NaNoWriMo and so little Bobby Doherty had a birthday party at Chucky Cheese last Saturday. That was quite convenient since I was looking at a copy of Area 51 when I was looking for a little boy's name.

recimw

Robert could dine in my writing.

 
At 2/11/06 1:33 AM, Cary said...

Yippee! Another year of the Bob & Jenny, Jenny & Bob Show! Of course, the focus groups came back, and the network bosses decided they needed to tweak the format, but hey....

And don't worry about crickets. I highly doubt you'll be hearing the sounds of silence. There are people in this group who'd pay good money to watch the two of you argue over the proper way to read a phone book. (Bob would want to go alphabetical by last name, to preserve his sense of order; Jenny would like to just cut to the important stuff - who needs the Xs anyway?)

And there are a number of us CherryBombs who just want to hear the pearls of wisdom. Even if its Bob telling us how to get along with publishers who can only ask, "Why you can't just make the hero a vampire and the heroine a time-traveling stripper superhero? It would sell so much better than this introspective relationship crap."

Seriously. I'm still waiting for the book on writing you promised us when you took all your writing articles down off your site. I had even put aside the $30 to buy it in hardcover.

 
At 2/11/06 1:45 AM, wapakwoman said...

Cary said,
"There are people in this group who'd pay good money to watch the two of you argue over the proper way to read a phone book. (Bob would want to go alphabetical by last name, to preserve his sense of order; Jenny would like to just cut to the important stuff - who needs the Xs anyway?)"

*snort* For some reason I think that is the funniest thing I have read in a long time. Having seen them in person, the image is so vivid in my mind!!!!!

Ok- we will go play in our rooms as the Big People have to work for a living. But we can always peek through the stairs and watch them. And maybe add a comment or two. We may need a designated commenter. Yes, that's it. CB's all agreeing on one thing. That'll happen!

Jen-T- I am typing in the dark and I need your fingernails.
Bryan- hope your thumb is better.

Jenny- I hope you are still glowing and basking even though you are rewriting. CW never met the CB's!

Santa Baby is supposed to be delivered tomorrow. Why oh why do I live in the middle of the cornfields with no big bookstore? WAH. I'll have to read it fast before Grey's Anatomy comes on! And then read it again!

 
At 2/11/06 2:53 AM, Louis said...

Ah, the blog continues....with the CBs on the sideline peeking into the wisdom of She and He, Jenny and Bob.....delightful.

No prologue?....good!

qkvsj...green

quiet kindly visions, solidly Jenny

 
At 2/11/06 3:55 AM, talpianna said...

We have our own space? What else did I miss?

lipirly -- an injunction to comment promptly

 
At 2/11/06 4:01 AM, ZaZa said...

Wow, another new blog. Go, Jenny. This is really great. I needed something to read that I hadn't written. One of the drawbacks of NaNo, you get very, very tired of reading your own writing.


Oh, can any of the other NaNo-ers tell me how the freaking hissie fits we're supposed to update out word counts??? It's totally different from last year, and I'm too sleepy to figure it out.

zxmptaig (red)
Zesty Xerxes married pretty, talented Atalanta in Greece. Heh. Almost "historically" correct.

 
At 2/11/06 4:04 AM, ZaZa said...

Well, Tal, we will have our own space, as soon as I finish building it. It will be slow, due to NaNo and other responsibilities, but I hope to have it up for testing by the end of the month. That will give us all of December to work out the kinks.

abaxwt (red)
As Bob arced Xavier, we twirled. LOL! Don't ask me what it means.

 
At 2/11/06 4:40 AM, ZaZa said...

BTW, I'm going to try to blog every day about the NaNo experience. I've been really bad about keeping it up - too much going on in my real world. But I figure NaNo will defintely give me things to talk about and angst to get off my chest. Or is that Agnes??? If anyone wants to take a look...Hint. Hint.

xqmeyhzy (blue)
Xavier quietly made evil yellow hens zip yolks. Hey, it's late and Ive been outlining my NaNo book.

 
At 2/11/06 5:04 AM, orangehands said...

OH MY BOB!!!!!!!

ok, sorry, Jenny, but OH MY BOB!!!!!

i think it should be on writing and publishing. maybe switch off for each month. or maybe focus on writing and every once in awhile go into publishing.

BUT OH MY BOB, we're getting a free, year-long workshop with any questions (about this) we have answered.

OH MY BOB.

seriously, last one, i promise Jenny. but geez, this should keep me awake in my classes tomorrow.

and we will keep any extraneous chatter on the other blog. we can do it. i mean, we should start investing in duct tape, but other than that, no problems.

THIS IS SO COOL!

will go read your blog, zaza, before writing the 82nd chapter to Tao Te Ching. night all.

 
At 2/11/06 5:08 AM, orangehands said...

I LOVE YOU J&B!!!!

ok, ok, i'm gonna go do homework.

on a completely other subject, did i mention my sandal/shoe things broke in the shower today? and they're rubber, too. geez.

 
At 2/11/06 5:11 AM, ZaZa said...

BUSINESS

Gatorperson, was it you that was a database wonk? Could you (or whoever, if it's not Gator) email me? zlamarr @ gmail . com

 
At 2/11/06 5:14 AM, hollygee said...

This will be good, J & B. I love it when you focus on writing, but I also love it when you focus on so many other things. Does this mean that you will be updating Arrrgh Ink more frequently? Hope. And probably that means that Bob will go back to inserting a two sentence 'update' on his blog every quarter year?

 
At 2/11/06 5:32 AM, Marg said...

I thought I missed something...looking forward to hearing about the CB's own space!

 
At 2/11/06 7:57 AM, Jen-t said...

Geez, I go to bed early one flipping night....

Jenny: While I'll be first in line to buy Agnes, I'm even more excited about this blog on writing/publishing. Yeah, I hate to agree with Bob, but publishing is an important part of the writing process. I probably wouldn't say that if I were in a different place, but what an eye opener it is to get published and then have to deal with "publishing" and "writing". I'm strill struggling to make it all work. I look forward to seeing the list of topics to be covered and more on the game plan. I'm sure I'll be able to come up with so many topics (in the writing section, promise) that I won't be shy in asking.

To be honest, the two of you have given some of the best workshops I've attended. I've learned more about writing, the business and more importantly, myself since I started listening to you two and attending your workshops. The point is...

Besides basking in your glow from being right two years ago...the opportunity to learn from you two is one I won't pass up. I think you both are some of the most amazing, talented people I've had the pleasure of meeting and reading. I look forward to learn from the best!

Yeah, I know, you all think I'm sucking up...so what. I'm intitled to a "meaningful" comment now and then.

 
At 2/11/06 8:16 AM, Deb said...

I vote for "He Wrote She Wrote: Damn It Bob, We Can’t Call It How To Write Because We’re Not Doing Non-Fiction." Or, riffing from SNL, "He Wrote She Wrote: Bob you ignorant slut."

Really demonstrates your synergy.

For those of us who can't do the travling bit to conferences, this is a fabulous boon. Thank You.

 
At 2/11/06 8:33 AM, Jen-t said...

Deb wrote: "Bob you ignorant slut." OH MY GOD! That is too funny.

 
At 2/11/06 8:45 AM, Cherry Magic Sheryl said...

I'm so excited I can't stand it. A whole year of Bob and Jenny, Jenny and Bob on the art(and business:sigh:)of writing. Yay! We're going to learn how to arc flamingos, and other assorted motifs.

 
At 2/11/06 8:53 AM, me said...

I am totally geeked about the 2007 Bob&Jenny Show! Since I've been unable to make the live conferences, this will be just as good. Except without the getting kicked out of bars part. I can't wait!

 
At 2/11/06 8:53 AM, btuda said...

deb, OMG. Thank you for that wake-me-up this morning. It made me snort and spit-take at the same time and I just about choked to death.

Jenny wrote: The Blog that Ate Chicago. I think I saw that one.

At least I'm almost awake now. I'm in week 2 of a hacking cough and in a fit of desperation I grabbed a bottle to prescription cough syrup from the back of the cabinet at 3AM this morning. You got it. Its the drowsy kind, but not the kind with codiene, thank Bob. I am considering taking Diet Coke #2 via IV.

I think I could actually stay on topic. Really.

kypdh: Krazy yellow poodles dance happily.

Yep, the medicine is a doozie.

 
At 2/11/06 9:08 AM, bon cheri bomb said...

Ditto what Jen said. Great idea. Can’t quite believe you two are willing to offer what is essentially a year-long writer’s workshop. I must still be asleep -- anyone tries to pinch me right now is asking to lose an arm. And we can ask questions? And you’ll answer? Really?

Because I’m still waiting for Bob to come over here and explain the difference between narrative structure and three/four/five act structure. Yes, darlin’, I really am that dense and I really want to know.

But, you know, I’m thinking you two might maybe sort of miss the fun stuff once in a while. So when you’re making that schedule, could you pencil in a few guest posts at the new CB place? Where you could hold forth at length on the topic of your choice? Maybe once a month? You could take turns? As terrific as the two of you are at teaching, it would be a shame if we never again got to see the snarky riled-up Jenny or the rantish moody Bob.

Don’t answer now. Just think about it.

Besides, I probably have to ask the other CBs whether it would be ok. We haven’t really talked about inviting guests over to the new place. We might have to take a vote. Or quell a stampede.

Oh, and if you’re worried about crickets [geez, are you serious?], I could let you borrow my cat. She loves crickets. Well, except for the legs. Sorry, you’re going to have to clean those up yourselves.

Hey, if you're willing to educate us, it's the least I can do.

bw

 
At 2/11/06 9:15 AM, me said...

bcb: I'm thinking it would be OK. But that's just me.

 
At 2/11/06 9:37 AM, GatorPerson said...

Publishing wisdom! Yes, I want publishing wisdom.

pocxy: Rhymes with doxy.

 
At 2/11/06 9:39 AM, McB said...

Okay I know Jen is excited and in awe because she spelled her entire comment correctly. After all this time it was actually harder to read that way.

Jenny, I know we, um, carried away sometimes but if you browse through you'll see that we have thoroughly enjoyed and often stayed on topic - for a while - when you two blogged on writing and publishing. So don't worry about crickets. Deleting comments won't be necessary ... we'll keep the duct tape handy in case anyone gets out of hand.

BCB said ... Besides, I probably have to ask the other CBs whether it would be ok.

Sure. Let's take a vote ... everybody NOT in favor of guest posts by Bob and/or Jenny say Nay ... *chirp ... chirp* There's your crickets, Jenny.

Talpianna! Yes the CBs are getting a new home. Mom and dad are kicking us out of the basement at the end of the year but they are letting us take the tv and sofa (well its got a dip stain on it anyway). Building supplies have been purchased towards the new CB Bar&Grill, and Zaza has been chief architect in charge. Until all electrical and plumbing is done, we may have to hang out in Bryan's spare room. Oh, and we purchased some land in Tierra del Fuego from which we can base our TOTW campaign.

 
At 2/11/06 10:40 AM, Brooke said...

EXCELLENT. Great plan! I doubt there will be crickets - and (sorry, Cherry Bombs) I applaud the no-chat rule.

 
At 2/11/06 10:55 AM, Anonymous said...

Amazing. What a wonderful way to wake up. I love good news.

You guys have been so generous with your words this year, I can only dream of what an entire blog on writing and publishing would be like. I've actually learned more about writing from this blog than from most workshops.

Thank you so much for being such caring, sharing, and interesting characters. The writing world needs more people like you.
rg

 
At 2/11/06 11:28 AM, marcia in ok said...

Christmas came early this year!

Even those of us CBs that aren't fiction writers have learned much about writing from the HWSW blog. I know it has helped me become a more discerning reader. I expect more from the books I've been reading. The bar has been raised.

Who knows, with the opportunity to take an on-line HWSW class, I might take up my keyboard and explore the basement.

I'm sure all CBs will do their best to stay on topic. It'll be like a virual college experience. Classes on Sunday and Thursday, study groups as need - on topic only, and then a place close by to hang out, decompress, and eat chocolate!

So, it is OK in writing/publishing, to stretch deadlines, if it really is making for a better book?

dtrjgc - Directed topics required, Jenny, GAW, clarified.

 
At 2/11/06 11:39 AM, marcia in ok said...

Totally on topic - from yesterday.

More basking in the glow and references to HWSW and collaborations.

http://thelipstickchronicles.typepad.com/the_lipstick_chronicles/

Sorry, you'll have to cut/paste into your browser, the link thing is beyond my skills and patience.

 
At 2/11/06 12:00 PM, Cary said...

Marcia - Thanks for posting that link. That is tooo funny and well worth the extra effort of the cut'n'paste. And B&J, J&B get a shout out!

ggharp - The sound my dog made when he discovered the tortellini I'd dropped on the floor.

 
At 2/11/06 12:00 PM, AgTigress said...

The no-chat rule: I can see both sides of this.

If there is a clear topic that many members wish to explore in detail, meandering conversations and asides can become a bit annoying, especially when there are hundreds of posts to wade through. On the other hand, when people get to 'know' one another, they naturally want to converse as friends do, which means in a meandering, free-form way, about subjects that may be peripheral or completely irrelevant.

This is precisely why I dislike the blog-plus-comments format! The type of forum format that accepts separate threads with clear subject titles permits both kinds of interaction to take place. I know this is a lost cause now, of course.

:-)

 
At 2/11/06 12:01 PM, Bryan said...

As odd as this is to say, I agree with everything that Jen said earlier. Since I only recently decided to write seriously, I was lamenting the fact that by the time I get around to actually attending my first conference "YEX and Violence" would have already had its final run.

THUMB UPDATE: The swelling has gone down and though it's still a bit painful I can actually move the thumb now. It has begun to turn some really festive colors however. How the hell does green get mixed up in there?

YOUNG GIRL WITH FLAT TIRE UPDATE: She asked what kind of cookie was my favorite, and banishing all thoughts of Dee's definition, I answered Oatmeal Raisin. It turns out that she's twenty-two, which for me is still a young girl though technically she wouldn't get me thrown out of my favorite bar and she does fall in the 21-50 age range that I use as my guide. And I didn't teach her any new swear words when I hurt my thumb. She asked, "Are you okay?" And I said, "Yep."

SISTERS FRIEND IN ENGLAND UPDATE: ::crickets:: No response whatsoever. Her e-mail is AOL, and I know AOL is bad about trashing e-mail from addresses not in your address book, so it's possible she never got it. But, it's not important enough to do it all again... especially if she did receive it but just wasn't interested. Then I'd just be Crazy American Cyber-Stalker Dude. I don't want to be him.

slgdm - What the lug wrench did to my hand.

 
At 2/11/06 12:01 PM, Diane said...

so glad to know about your blog and am _really_ looking forward to the 2007 version, whatever you end up calling it! I like the educational aspect so I'll be staying tuned. Speaking of staying tuned ... I try to spend more time writing than Internet'ing so if we're signed up for the mailing list will that bop us over the head when there's a new posting for the 2007 blog entries?

Cheers from Canada,

Diane

www.dianeschuller.com

 
At 2/11/06 12:03 PM, K.L. said...

Jen T said "Yeah, I know, you all think I'm sucking up...so what. I'm intitled to a "meaningful" comment now and then."

McB said "Okay I know Jen is excited and in awe because she spelled her entire comment correctly. After all this time it was actually harder to read that way."

Not quite. Intitled is really entitled, so it is still all good.

And I sincerely hope Jenny and Bob come over and spew snark occasionally. Giving out writing pearls of wisdom is absolutely cool of them, but I would miss the snark terribly.

 
At 2/11/06 12:47 PM, Jen-t said...

I'm flattered that anyone agrees with me. Usually people just stare blankly at me like I have five heads or something. Usually my ideas are a little left (or right) of normal and most of the time I don't sound all that intelligent. Shut up BCB. I know I have my moments. And as far as having an almost "mistake" free comment, well, hell. When I actually have to make sense I try and atleast let it make sense in spelling too. When I'm digging deep and not just saying whatever pops into my head, well, then I'm thinking and that takes time. Those comments take like forever and sometimes they hurt my head.

But not that one. I meant every damn spelled right or wrong word of it. Not only are Bob and Jenny amazing writers and totally awesome people, they are great teachers. For that, I thank them both!

 
At 2/11/06 12:48 PM, Anonymous said...

Thank you! I like you banter too, but I _love_ your writing information. I'm glad HWSW:TBA will be around longer. I've really enjoyed this and moved it to the top of my daily reads.
I also welcome the idea that we can ask writing questions.

JulieB

 
At 2/11/06 1:16 PM, glamour-geek said...

BCB sez: As terrific as the two of you are at teaching, it would be a shame if we never again got to see the snarky riled-up Jenny or the rantish moody Bob.

Do you really think that either is capable of teaching sans snark/rant? Please. As Jenny said, they're not going to mature. Thank goodness.

And I enjoy hearing about the process (sorry, Jenny, even the publisher part, though I'd say the mix should be 5 parts writing to 1 part publishing) even though I don't write fiction (well, except marketing materials--hah!).

I actually had an idea for a novel (this happens a lot), but it's not really enough to sustain a book (which also happens a lot). I get a bit of what happens to a character, or a tiny scene, or a bit of a piece of a plot, but nothing more than that. I don't think I have the attention span for a novel. Or even a short story. Writing, not reading, of course.

Perhaps next year will teach me what it takes to sustain a book, despite Jenny's saying that Agnes looked small on the white board. Maybe you should just tell Agnes she looks slimmer on the whiteboard. :)

Bryan: you are a really, really sweet boy. What a darlin' you are.

Jen-T sez: Usually people just stare blankly at me like I have five heads or something.

That would be because you're an alien, dear, but you're OUR alien, so we like you that way. :)

 
At 2/11/06 1:28 PM, Nanaimo G said...

Hey J&B will always be welcome at "our place" I know Iknow they threw us out, but, I figure sorta "knowing" J&B they'll need sompelace to vent once in a while. We should have figured Bob was working on a plan to get rid of all the "small talk"
Change of topic
I envy you writers, talking about arc and themes etc. readers {like me anyway} don't know how much work is involved. We happily read the book you sweated blood over. and say "I liked that", or not.

I never thought thought I'd say this, but being a writer is worse than making meals, inasmuch as I don't spend THAT much time over even the fussiest meal. One good thing though, if I like a book I can reread it. Well gotta run, work hard and get all your words done for the nanon?
sympathetic [[[H]]] to all who need them

 
At 2/11/06 2:19 PM, Lou said...

nanaimo - I sent you an email, but in case you don't get it - I can't make Reno. Got new project at work with early deadline - can't take any time off (not happy, but need roof over my head and pets get hungry!)

Bryan - glad thumb is getting better, you sweetheart!!

I'm all for asking J&B if they will guest blog at our new home. I also think it's way cool that they are willing to give a year-long lesson for free. It will be very informative, even for those of us who are readers, not writers (at least not fiction). Looking forward to it!!

jzafkrou
Jenny zestfully asks (a) friend, kindly retrain our users

 
At 2/11/06 2:28 PM, Lori said...

That's just brilliant, and I'm ecstatic as well. I may not write, but I do love to learn from both of you. I'll be proud to go back to lurking on the HW/SW blog.


While my vote is for Deb's idea of name (love it), here are some that wanted out of my head...

He Wrote, She Wrote: You Benefit.
He Wrote, She Wrote: You Write, Better.
He Wrote, She Wrote: You Learn. (A Lot.)
He Wrote, She Wrote: You Decide Who's Right.

All of these would of course be followed by a blurb explaining the purpose of the blog and giving J&B the kudos and respect they deserve as writers, teachers, and gods/goddesses.

dvdvb: "DVD!" votes Bob.

 
At 2/11/06 2:34 PM, McB said...

My own humble suggestion:

He Wrote, She Wrote: Learn From the Pros

 
At 2/11/06 2:41 PM, Bryan said...

He Wrote, She Wrote: So Help Me, Bob.

 
At 2/11/06 3:23 PM, Toni Anderson said...

Well that is fabulous news. Can't wait!!!!

Sorry to interrupt ;)

 
At 2/11/06 3:41 PM, btuda said...

bryan: you've got my vote.

Oh, Lori? We've got another slogan for you to add to the list ...

 
At 2/11/06 3:55 PM, ZaZa said...

If anyone is interested, meaning those of you in the general UK area, there will be an Irish music festival kind of thingie:

in St. James’ Church in Dingle, Co. Kerry on the 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 4th and 5th December and audience tickets are on sale from November 3rd only on www.tickets.ie. The series will be broadcast on RTÉ Two in 2007.

They'll be filming them for television. It's a collection of the best modern voices in Irish music. James Blunt, Mundy, The Waterboys, The Frames and The Thrills have performed in past years. Don't know who's up this year.

Anyone want more info, Laura Murtagh is the woman who sent me the press release laura @ hummingbirdproductions . ie (remove the spaces). They've done this at least a couple times before, and they're fantastic. I got the press release because I inquired about the availability of a DVD. Unfortunately, they haven't done them so far, but maybe this time.

 
At 2/11/06 4:28 PM, AgTigress said...

"...those of you in the general UK area".

ROFL! I know the British Isles may appear small on a map to North Americans, but honestly, the furthermost tip of County Kerry is quite a long way from most parts of Great Britain in terms of travelling time! I'm pretty sure you could get there just as quickly from New York or Philadelphia as you could from London. :-)

The Dingle Peninsula, and indeed Kerry as a whole, is a most enchanting place; sublime scenery, and a mystical, edge-of-the-world feeling to it. I was there in 1971; it is one of so many places I should love to visit again.

 
At 2/11/06 4:28 PM, bon cheri bomb said...

Bryan wrote:
He Wrote, She Wrote: So Help Me, Bob

or one could get creative with the punctuation:
He Wrote, She Wrote: So, Help Me Bob

and G-G chastised: Do you really think that either is capable of teaching sans snark/rant? Please. As Jenny said, they're not going to mature. Thank goodness.

You're right. Geez, what was I thinking? Never mind, J&B, no need whatsoever to express your fun-loving selves over on the new CB blog. Forget I mentioned it.

Was that a sigh of relief I just heard?

bw

 
At 2/11/06 4:57 PM, marcia in ok said...

CB Bar and Grill aka The Blog That Ate Chicago.

 
At 2/11/06 5:03 PM, btuda said...

marcia: oooo, I like that one too!

Wish I was able to come up with such good ideas. I'm not sure what was in the cough syrup this morning, but I am pretty sure I'm not to be operating any heavy machinery.

 
At 2/11/06 5:17 PM, glamour-geek said...

btuda: good to know. I'll cancel the order for the jackhammer then, shall I?

 
At 2/11/06 5:31 PM, ZaZa said...

bon cheri bomb said...
Besides, I probably have to ask the other CBs whether it would be ok. We haven’t really talked about inviting guests over to the new place. We might have to take a vote. Or quell a stampede.

Oh, yeah, like we're going to say no to Mom and Dad. They can guest rant, er blog, any time they like. It'll feel just like home. We may be moving above ground, but I think we'll all be homesick for the basement for quite a while.

(Pssst! Do you think that was pitiful enough to make them feel sorry for us poor, evicted babies?)


AgTigress said...
"...those of you in the general UK area".
ROFL! I know the British Isles may appear small on a map to North Americans, but honestly, the furthermost tip of County Kerry is quite a long way from most parts of Great Britain in terms of travelling time!

As is Los Angeles from San Francisco, but that doesn't stop us Californians from considering it an overnight trip. We'll drive two hours for a good restaurant, or three hours for an afternoon in Carmel, so that trip doesn't seem outlandish to me. Another difference between us Yanks and you Brits, I guess. ;+) I'd do it, if I were in England/Scotland and had the interest.

 
At 2/11/06 6:19 PM, glamour-geek said...

zaza: yuppers! In 1990 when I was visiting friends in London they said they (and I) were going to spend Easter with a friend of theirs, but it was a very, very long trip and maybe because of that I wouldn't want to go. How long a drive? About 1-1/2 hours. I laughed my head off.

I informed them that some people in California commute that far to work every day and they were horrified.

But I'd be horrified if I had a 1-1/2 hour commute (each way), too.

 
At 2/11/06 6:45 PM, K.L. said...

That is something I noticed when I visited Germany many years ago. People were more relaxed and not so fixated on their watches, streets were much cleaner, and you could get from one country to another faster than going from state to state here. (except in the New England area) Everything seemed closer together.

 
At 2/11/06 6:47 PM, Cary said...

Heck Zaza, G-G, I get that with people on this side of the pond all the time. I can't figure out if it's a West Coast thing, a generational thing, or a suburbanite thing.

I think I was practically raised in a car. All through childhood, it was "lets get in the car": a sit-down dinner out was a 20-40 minute drive depending on where the folks wanted to eat, the malls were a 30 minute drive, etc.

I moved to a community (Portland) with strict urban growth boundaries, and people here just don't get why I chose a 30-minute commute. (Hah! I had a 45 minutes to an hour in the car each way for my first job.)

Not that I wouldn't live closer in if I could afford it... *Sigh*

ysrttb - Yes, Sir! Readers Totally Tote Books (everywhere)

 
At 2/11/06 6:50 PM, Cary said...

BTW - My shrink and I were having a conversation about my relationship with books. He was asking why I don't get more sleep at night, and I told him it's because I get involved in what I'm reading and lose track of time/don't want to put it down.

He thinks this meets the definition of a compulsion/addiction. (And he doesn't even know about Hot Toy.) Anyone else think my shrink isn't much for reading?

 
At 2/11/06 6:58 PM, marcia in ok said...

Cary - My line to non-readers used to be "reading is cheaper that going to a shrink". But, that was before the price of books got so high.

 
At 2/11/06 7:10 PM, K.L. said...

Cary,
What do you think your shrink would say about us CBs? If reading a good book well into the night is compulsion/addiction, what would shovels and TOTW be classified as? Maybe you just better not mention us to him.

 
At 2/11/06 7:27 PM, ZaZa said...

On long commutes, I think these are more common in places where there are two metropolitan areas near each other. I've lived in the Tucson-Phoenix, San Francisco-San Jose, and Baltimore-Washington areas. For some reason, people seem to live in one and work in the other, don't know why. When I worked in DC, I'd have loved to move there, but my place in Baltimore was gorgeous, huge and about a quarter the rent of a comparable place in DC. My friend and her husband lived in Philly for a while, with her going back and forth to NYC and him to the state capitol, Allentown??? It wasn't too bad, except in snow season.

I think, especially for those of us born and raised in CA, that we've grown up with freeways, so longish drives just seem normal. Living in SF, you have to drive outside the City if you want a place to shop with parrking, well, mostly. And who wants to struggle home with multiple packages on public transportation? I did that for too many years before I had my first car. /;+)

hgbefde (blue)
Hi, girls! Bet everyone feels desireable enough. Hey, Blogger gave me the letters.

 
At 2/11/06 7:38 PM, Cary said...

Zaza said, "I think, especially for those of us born and raised in CA, that we've grown up with freeways, so longish drives just seem normal."

Exactly! My parents were both Californians in the '50s and '60s. Don't get more "car culture" than that!

K.L. said...
"Cary,
What do you think your shrink would say about us CBs? If reading a good book well into the night is compulsion/addiction, what would shovels and TOTW be classified as? Maybe you just better not mention us to him."


Uh, too late for that. Since I stopped lurking and started posting while in the middle of a manic episode, I'm afraid y'all had to come up in therapy. Don't worry, since he's a Freudian psychiatrist, we're still working on childhood. The CBs are a long way off. I don't think that the Girls in the Basement, the Lurkers in the Attic, or Grover's pink tutu with the pirate patch thong will come up very soon.

Could you even imagine my trying to explain BCB, MCB, et al's virtual bus tour? We'd all be fending off the white coat brigade.

gymlor - The stories Glamour-Geek's trainer has to tell....

 
At 2/11/06 7:39 PM, AgTigress said...

Zaza - my point was not about distances per se but about time. A given distance, say 300 miles, within Great Britain will usually take substantially longer to cover than the same distance in the USA because of the topography. We do not have large expanses of flattish countryside with straight, level roads. When I was commuting daily, my journey into / out of town could take anything between 20 and 75 minutes: the distance is about 5 miles; the average speed of traffic within London is actually less than 5 mph. And in many rural areas, such as north Wales, the narrow, steep and very winding mountain roads impose a slow average speed for safety reasons. I am very surprised indeed to learn of any Londoners (mentioned by Glamour-Geek) who regard a 1½-hour journey as long, since many London commuters regard this as a normal morning and evening trip to and from work.

Most Europeans are perfectly relaxed about travelling a fair way, and into another country, for something they want to attend: I have attended scores of conferences in other European and Middle Eastern countries. A weekend in Cairo or Boston is not a big deal. The point is, it doesn't take much longer to get from London to Cairo or Boston than it does to get to the west coast of Wales or the Scottish Highlands, although the latter are much closer in terms of mileage.

My point was simply to emphasise that the time/distance relationship may be other than what Americans expect simply from glancing at a map. As I said, Dingle is probably 'closer' to Philly, time-wise, than to London.

;-)

 
At 2/11/06 8:01 PM, glamour-geek said...

I'm much more European than American in that sense: I grew up in downtown Toronto (well, midtown if you prefer, in the Annex) til I was 11, didn't own a car til I was 24, and I only put about 8K miles on my car each year, well below our national average.

 
At 2/11/06 8:02 PM, K.L. said...

Well Cary,
If talking about us to your therapist is the price to pay for getting you out of the attic, it is well worth it. Just, umm, maybe keep the hotel incident off the radar. No need to frighten him.

 
At 2/11/06 8:15 PM, McB said...

Cary said ... He thinks this meets the definition of a compulsion/addiction.

Yeah? So? Jeez you say that like its not normal.

Time and travel ... East coasters don't pay much attention to the miles either. I live in Maryland, work in DC and already this year I've been to Georgia, Florida, Virginia, New York, Pennsylvania, New Jersey, West Virginia and North Carolina. All except GA and FL by car. And I'd have driven those two except driving time cuts into vacation time. Of course, as Tigress pointed out we have have more options for the roads we travel. The expressway which is boring, avoiding most metro areas, but faster; or the through roads that let you visit each little town. I've used both depending on my mood and how much time I have free for the drive. I just pop in an audio book and ... oops, there's that addiction again.

He Wrote, She Wrote: The Bob and Jenny Show, part deux

 
At 2/11/06 8:52 PM, bon cheri bomb said...

MCB wrote: already this year I've been to Georgia, Florida, Virginia, New York, Pennsylvania, New Jersey, West Virginia and North Carolina

What? What?! You came to NC and didn't stop by to see me? I'm hurt.

and Cary wrote: Could you even imagine my trying to explain BCB, MCB, et al's virtual bus tour?

We took a BUS tour? Never mind explaining that to your shrink, you need to get back over here and explain it to ME. And BTW, if you ever get tired of having to explain yourself all the damn time, just send him/her over here to read the comments. You'll be pronounced "normal" in no time. Though the rest of us might be in big trouble.

I know I have lots of OCD-type behaviours but I figure if it doesn't bother me, and it doesn't, why should it bother anyone else? If we all got rid of our strange quirks we'd be boring as hell.

When I lived in Atlanta (no other big metropolitan areas nearby, believe me) I had a commute of an hour and twenty minutes to the office downtown, each way. Going downtown on a Saturday night took 20 minutes, tops. Sometimes it's not the topography, it's the traffic.

My mom still becomes irriated as all get out when she asks how far away something is here (expecting a mileage estimate, which I consider irrelevant) and instead I tell her how long it takes to get there.

She says: Don't you have a trip odometer in your car? And I say: Yeah, but I don't know how it works.

bw

 
At 2/11/06 9:49 PM, Mary said...

McB spake thusly (albeit in Broad Scots* and iambic pentameter):

My own humble suggestion:
He Wrote, She Wrote: Learn From the Pros


Beg to differ, Ms. Thane. Shouldn't that be "Learn from the Prose"?

And Jen, personally I think those 5 heads are quite attractive on you. Not every alien can pull that sort of thing off. Must be a pain, trying to coordinate 5 hairstyle at once :(

Bryan, clearly this overseas woman was not worthy of a man of your superior qualities. Her loss. Tsk.



*If that's how the broads speak, then how do men in Scotland speak?**
**Do men in Scotland speak?

 
At 2/11/06 10:09 PM, ZaZa said...

AgTigress said...
My point was simply to emphasise that the time/distance relationship may be other than what Americans expect simply from glancing at a map. As I said, Dingle is probably 'closer' to Philly, time-wise, than to London.

When a friend and I were in England, with a rental car, we stayed in a B&B (or home stay, really) in Bath after we'd been in the country about a week. I can't remember exactly how many miles we had on the car, but they were totally amazed. We ended up with several thousand miles on the odometer before we turned the car in, after only two weeks. ;+))) We drove into the countryside a lot, including Wales, and it was gorgeous. I guess because my grandparents and several family friends live in the country where roads are very narrow, steep and winding, I'm used to that, too. Nothing much worries me about driving or putting miles on the car.

When we missed the ferry to the Isle of Man, we took a little sidetrip to Edinburgh. LOL! Well, we had two days before we could get tickets to travel with our car, and that was someplace we hadn't been yet. Yeah, it's an American mindset, I think. I was thinking in terms of flying to Ireland for an overnight or weekend - didn't look at the calendar to see what days the concerts were covering.

sazpi (green)
Borat's pet shitzu (or however you spell that)

 
At 2/11/06 10:43 PM, Lori said...

I would like my shirt to read:

For the love of Bob



I've been using that phrase quite a bit lately and people around me are starting to pick up on it. I find that fun.

lyocip: Look, your oddness can intimadate people.

 
At 2/11/06 11:39 PM, glamour-geek said...

zaza sez: where roads are very narrow, steep and winding

Hey, Mary! Can you say Moloka'i, the road to Halawa Valley!? Hah!

Posted signs along the way:
Road narrows, speed limit 15 MPH.
Curvy road ahead.
Limited sight distance.
(no kidding, I never would have noticed that with all the curves in the road and the limited visibility and all!)

then:
Road narrows, speed limit 10 MPH.
Curvy road ahead.
Limited sight distance.

then:
Road narrows, speed limit 5 MPH.
Curvy road ahead.
Limited sight distance.
(by this point it's one lane--not one lane in each direction, just one lane--and some pull outs)

g-g, who is driving, turns to mary and says, "If the next one says 'road narrows, bike path' I'm turning around!"

Curvy roads. Hee hee! Curvy roads.

 
At 2/11/06 11:56 PM, orangehands said...

BCB: i normally do time it takes, but every once in awhile i do distance- as in, from here to there is the length of my index finger on a small map. :)

i don't mind the time or distance, but i mind paying that much for gas. which is why i don't go very far unless i plan to make a day out of it.

and yes, while i was mailing my absentee ballot in town today, i picked up Santa Baby. couldn't help it. but i have enough control to wait till tomorrow after my midterm. i do!

and, to quote my teenage peers, duh J&B can come guest blog.

lori: i want that shirt too. :)

 
At 3/11/06 12:00 AM, Louis said...

Mary...

I do believe the Scottish men speak in "Kilts".

tekujx...blue

takes every kind under Jenny's Xpertize

 
At 3/11/06 12:30 AM, Nanaimo G said...

LOU No I didn't get your e-mail...I'm having a lot of trouble with people getting through.
I'm so sorry we won't get to meet each other in Reno It would have been good fun to meet another CB. Maybe some other time.
You are so right about the time it takes to travel in the UK. I think it's because there are all those small villages every 5 minutes. In Scotland once you get further north they also have the single lane, with the car closest to the layby having to reverse into the layby, so the other car can pass, AND don't forget the sheep, they have no conception of "right of way" it's ALWAYS their right of way
sgylz green squigles.

 
At 3/11/06 1:41 AM, Scope Dope Cherrybomb said...

I used to drive through Germany at night from one Canadian base to another, with two little kids in the car. Quite often on one side of the narrow road would be a huge drop off and on the other a cliff face. Because of where I was going the Autobahn with its wonderful paved wide road was not an option.

Hi. Have updated my blog finally. I had to give up on the Michael stories because he is 16 now and does not appreciate tales of his life at 2-6yo. so now I am rambling on. Currently talking about NaNo and the New Jersey conference.

Still writing. I am very lucky because for the past two days the words have just been coming to me. I know there will be days when that won't happen so I am trying to get down as much as I can and take Sheryl's advice and just write it. Good luck to all the others involved. I just dropped in for the coffee and cookies mcb set aside for us.

lori and orangehands check your email.

mcb, robin s and deeNancy Herkness sent me a note and said the CBs were a great bunch. Thought you'd like to know.

lydvme

Liking yachting does very many Englishmen in.

 
At 3/11/06 3:09 AM, talpianna said...

Maybe the new blog should be called something like "He Wrote, She Deleted." Or vice versa.

At least this moving-out-of-the-basement thing seems to be going calmly. Of course, there's still time for us all to wind up on DR. PHIL...

At least we'd get some free therapy out of it. Or J&B would. And Dr. Phil would pay our moving expenses and a couple of months' rent.

But will our new home have a nice green lawn, suitable for decoration with molehills? And plenty of worms and grubs?

Bryan, my hero, you are thumb kind of wonderful! I only wish I were still young enough to date you.

If Mom and Dad come to visit, I think Mom should bring cookies and Dad should fix the leaky faucets, unstop the toilet, plane the back door so it closes properly, and shoot any of the neighbors who look at us crosseyed--you know, the things every parent does for his/her kids.

Cary: I know I've told this story before, but I don't know if it was on this blog or elsewhere. If it was here, you're all just going to have to sit through it again.

The late and greatly lamented Andre Norton, SF/Fantasy GrandMaster and author of over 100 books, suffered for most of her life from ailments that until quite recently medical science could not treat successfully. When she complained to one of her doctors that the side effects of the medication he'd prescribed made it difficult for her to write, he replied, "Well, can't you find another hobby?"

Sometimes the medical profession just doesn't get it.

Do let us know what the shrink says about your Mole and Tigress friends? Will we be officially classified as imaginary?

Zaza, did you really know someone who commuted between Tucson and Phoenix ON A DAILY BASIS? That seems a great deal too much, though I suppose one could spend the work week in one and the weekend at home. I suppose that's what our legislators do. Bob knows they don't seem to do anything else!

Mary opined: And Jen, personally I think those 5 heads are quite attractive on you. Not every alien can pull that sort of thing off. Must be a pain, trying to coordinate 5 hairstyle at once

At least we know what to give her for Christmas and birthdays--she can always use more earrings!

Jen-T in the morning, before she's done her heads:

http://www.wizards.com/dnd/images/CoC_55.jpg

cdgjqoo -- Jen-T/Regis talking baby talk to her spawn

 
At 3/11/06 3:54 AM, orangehands said...

the world's starting to spin right again. tal is back, posting pictures. as soon as she threatens me i know all is well in the universe.

 
At 3/11/06 8:25 AM, Jen-t said...

Jen-T in the morning....snort. Very funny.

 
At 3/11/06 8:42 AM, bon cheri bomb said...

Mary wrote: And Jen, personally I think those 5 heads are quite attractive on you. Not every alien can pull that sort of thing off.

All those extra body parts, so disturbing. And when they start pulling them off... just saying. Hanging out with aliens can be very educational.

and Tal opined: I think Mom should bring cookies and Dad should fix the leaky faucets, unstop the toilet, plane the back door so it closes properly, and shoot any of the neighbors who look at us crosseyed--you know, the things every parent does for his/her kids.

ROFL! Perfect. Thanks, Tal. So glad to have you back among us.

A couple of nice images to start the last day of a long week.

Jen? Is it really snowing up there today? And did they ever get all the power back on in Buffalo?

bw

 
At 3/11/06 9:39 AM, McB said...

Mary philosophized ... Must be a pain, trying to coordinate 5 hairstyle at once

Och, lass, but surrrrely there be one hav'n a gud hair day, aye?

Tal, I think we put OH and Lori in charge of creating mole tunnels.

But I'm thinking Mom will more likely expect us to provide the cookies than bring them herself. Dad will likely complain we aren't taking proper care of the car and Mom will *tsk tsk* that we were raised better than that.

*sigh* and it will be just like home.

 
At 3/11/06 10:16 AM, btuda said...

Me thinks that travel time is relative. I grew up in a small town that was at least an hour from anywhere. It was an hour to Merrillville, where there was family and shopping, and an hour to South Bend with more shopping and concert venues. Of course, once you reach the city limits, it could easily be another 30 minutes to an hour to reach your destination due to traffic.

People used to think I was nuts for driving nearly two hours to my RWA chapter meetings (note to self: must get back on that routine). Of course, I think some of those same people are nuts since they rarely leave town. I have one friend who owned her car for four years and never drove it out of state. Now that's just weird to me.

 
At 3/11/06 11:07 AM, Anonymous said...

Did anyone see the news on the demise of the man made flamingo? Apparently the factory that makes these garden ornaments is folding. Maybe someone should warn the guy that J&B are about to make the flamingo a household name. *wink*
rg

 
At 3/11/06 12:08 PM, Lori said...

McB said..."I think we put OH and Lori in charge of creating mole tunnels."

Yes? Well, I am really good about digging myself into holes. Not quite as good at finding a way to gracefully get back out of them...


The book The Original Pink Famingos: Splendor on the Grass was on my shelf last night when I got to work. Having never mentioned the importance of flamingos to my coworkers, I'm not sure why this particular book crossed my path, but it was full of fun flamingo pictures. Here's the blurb I found about it:

"This is the tale of a wonderful bird, named by his creator phoenicopteris ruber plasticus; a new avian species, now known to all as Pink Plastic Flamingo. The more than one hundred pictures and the text in this volume are the result of Featherstone's request that adoring owners of the pink birds send original photographs that demonstrate their affection for phoenicopteris"

mnmddbd: MN makes designated drivers best drivers.

 
At 3/11/06 12:20 PM, Lily said...

Oh, I'm excited!

To quote Dilly:

"This is going to be good."

I'll be one of those crickets.

 
At 3/11/06 12:25 PM, K.L. said...

Jen T, I loved the picture of you in the morning. If that is accurate, is it safe to bet you and the DH don't vibrate the bed much in the morning? *Snort*

 
At 3/11/06 1:09 PM, Anonymous said...

What a great idea! can't wait for the HW/SW blog redux.

Hope you enjoy our VA weather this weekend. It's sunny and *brisk*. Just perfect.

steph in VA

 
At 3/11/06 2:06 PM, Diane said...

LOVE the idea-a free writing course! You guys are too good.

Just do writing now-save editors and agents and publishing and promoting next year! (Just my less than 2 cents worth).

 
At 3/11/06 2:31 PM, Lou said...

nanaimo g - Rest of email said I will be in Seattle area in spring. Maybe we can get together. My home email: shadowhills@softcom.net

Being a Californian, I measure distance in time it takes to get there. For instance, it takes 16 hours straight through to drive to the Grand Canyon from Berkeley. As Cary said, "Car culture."

Tal - so glad you are moving with us.

Tigress - how is your mother?

Louis - Scotish men speak in "kilts" - **SNORT**

Happy weekend everyone!!

OH - get to studying girl!!

Jen T - love the outfit.

fuspdxfi
fussy pdx files

 
At 3/11/06 3:25 PM, AgTigress said...

Lou said: 'Tigress - how is your mother?'

Thank you so much for asking. Okay at times, deeply depressed at others. In the spirit of the time/distance discussion above, we live nearly 8 hours away, so it is hard for me to react quickly if she seems very 'down', and talking on the phone does not solve some problems.

I don't think there is any easy answer, but at least she is physically and mentally competent at the moment. If my poor father had been the one who was left alone, it would be easier, because he was naturally optimistic and gregarious in a way that my mother is not.

Sorry, people, for going so off-topic.

:-)

 
At 3/11/06 3:32 PM, Christine said...

Sounds interesting. You both have a couple of key divergences on craft and approach so that should keep it spirited. I have to agree with Bob-o on the publishing part: it's worth adding because it's part of the atmosphere of the writer - sometimes it's more dense then not - but it's ever present and in some way influences work at each spectrum end and inbetween: the decision to stray from market or write to market and all in the midst.

 
At 3/11/06 4:16 PM, Christina said...

AgTigress--You never need to apologize. Everyone of us does it and we're all here to support one another.

Speaking of off-topic...

Can I just say how embarrassed I am to be associated with other Americans who make totals a**es out of themselves in other countries. I don't know how many of you know him, but there is a hip-hop artist named Kanye West who, at the MTV European Music Awards yesterday, lost the award for Best Video of the Year and he got up on stage while the winners (a Parisian duo I've never heard of) were accepting their award to complain in a cuss-word filled rant that he should of won because his video cost a million dollars, had Pamela Anderson in it and apparently had special effects where he was jumping over canyons (I've not seen the video, so don't know for sure). He bitched to the press afterwards too and said that the awards show lost credibility by not awarding Best Video to him.

Kanye West is the worst example of an American, but sadly many will look at him and his behavior and say 'oh, typical american.' It drives me up a wall.

And it's not just celebrities. There are many American students at my university and some of them are just as embarrassing, especially this guy in my German class who is loud, obnoxious, competitive and over the top.

Aaaarrrrgghhh!

End of rant.

 
At 3/11/06 4:30 PM, McB said...

Tigress, no apologies necessary; especially if it helped. ((hug))

 
At 3/11/06 4:37 PM, Jen-t said...

BCB - It snowed yesterday, but didn't stick. We are supposed to get 3 inches tonight...we shall see. To my knowledge, all of buffalo has power back.

So glad I could (or whoever posted the pic) could amuse you today. Actually, I feel just like that picture right now. And I'm just as grumpy.

going back to my corner....

 
At 3/11/06 4:51 PM, Scope Dope Cherrybomb said...

Big [[[[[hugs]]]]]tigress I know how hard that situation is.

Hello to all Newbies. Please feel free to follow us to our new home.

TALPIANNA you make me do the happy dance since you are back. Stay with us please. We are so worth it and we need your wisdom. tigress has been doing her part but we need you too.

Gotta go write. Talk to you later.

qwyob Quick, write your own blog.

 
At 3/11/06 5:36 PM, ZaZa said...

talpianna said...
But will our new home have a nice green lawn, suitable for decoration with molehills? And plenty of worms and grubs?

Okay, Tal, you are now our official Landscape Architect. You can put in as many molehills as you like, as long as the grass is green and nicely mowed and the flower beds weeded.

AND...
Zaza, did you really know someone who commuted between Tucson and Phoenix ON A DAILY BASIS?

I don't remember the exact details, but he worked for the state, in Phoenix most of the week, but he was in a satellite office in Tucson maybe one day??? He didn't live in Tucson proper, a few miles closer to Phoenix, which cut off a fair amount of time getting out of town and onto the Highway, but it was still nearly two hours, I believe.

When I commuted from Baltimore to the Pentagon by train, it took me about two hours door -to-door, and I think the driving, walking, riding, changing to two different metros once I got to DC, then the trek up to the Pentagon, well, when I switched to driving, it was shorter time and less aggravating, most of the time. /;+)


mcb said...
But I'm thinking Mom will more likely expect us to provide the cookies than bring them herself.

Mom will crochet us afghans and scarves to keep us warm in the winter. Dad will threaten our boyfriends with the pinkie of death. But, maybe, they both tell us bedtime stories, too.


AgTigress said...
(when talking about her mother)
Sorry, people, for going so off-topic.

Nothing is off-topic here. You know that. ;+) Plus you were asked, and there are others of us who've wondered, but didn't ask. I thought my mom was okay, too, but discovered that she was anything but. She kept it together when I'd come to visit - I'm such a managing type, she went along, and I took that to mean she was fine. So, maybe check for signs that she's not eating, not getting out of the house. If she has friends who visit or someone who takes her out, then she's probably doing okay, just because those things keep a person alert and active.


BUSINESS

Did anyone take a look at the t-shirt from Mary's idea??? No one commented, and I was wondering if we wanted to keep it.

nptdilcz (red)
Nice purple tees don't intellectualize lewd comments, Zoe.

vhaicm (green)
Vincent has an illustrious, cat-like mien.

 
At 3/11/06 5:45 PM, Anonymous said...

Yay! My story, Beyond the Shadows, placed first in the Haunted Hearts contest in the Contemporary Gothic
category.
Doing the Snoopy dance. *grin*
rg

 
At 3/11/06 5:52 PM, Lou said...

rg - WAY TO GO GIRL!!!! Woohoo - good on ya - yay!!!!

 
At 3/11/06 6:07 PM, Kay T said...

zz - I think I missed the link to the t-shirt before. In fact, I might have missed some other business. I LOVE the T-shirt and would probably even wear it! I did not notice if it came in XXL! Should we be checking out something else? Site, Lori's blog???

Off to see my mom this weekend. have a good one all

 
At 3/11/06 6:32 PM, K.L. said...

I missed the earlier reference to the shirt also, but love it. Very adorable. However, in the interest of honesty, CBs would probably encourage each other to blog drunk. Just saying.

 
At 3/11/06 7:14 PM, ZaZa said...

Kay T said...
I LOVE the T-shirt and would probably even wear it! I did not notice if it came in XXL! Should we be checking out something else? Site, Lori's blog???

There are probably a dozen different shirts we could put that on, not to mention mugs and stuff. I don't know if that particular shirt comes in larger sizes, but many of the regular tees come up to 4X, so lots of sizes for everyone.


k.l. said...
in the interest of honesty, CBs would probably encourage each other to blog drunk. Just saying.

LOL! Well, we can all pretend to be abstinent bloggers. /;+)

Also, PLEASE NOTE, this is just a sample. The image of the martini glass is blown up so much that the quality is poor. Once we know what we're going to use, our artists will need to give us bigger versions for CP. I can play with them to a certain extent, but we don't want to sell/buy poor quality stuff. Nor do we want to thank our artists by selling things that would reflect badly on their abilities. So, ideas only at this point.

 
At 3/11/06 7:42 PM, bon cheri bomb said...

I thought Mary said: Friends don't let friends drink and blog.

But I'm easily confused. Maybe it's just that I like that better than "blog drunk."

Congrats on the win RG! I found that contest announcement in with about 45 other emails when I got home today and was going to say something if you didn't. [grin] Let us know when you get that contract offer!

bw

 
At 3/11/06 7:47 PM, orangehands said...

tigress: like zaza said, some of us have wondered, and you always have whatever support you need. ((HUGS)) for you and your mom.

zaza: i feel like i missed a whole post with business on it. did we decide on our logo? and i love that tank top.

rg: CONGRATULATIONS!!!!!!!!!!!!

 
At 3/11/06 7:59 PM, talpianna said...

More on the Kanye West story:

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/15536834/

CONGRATULATIONS, RG!!!!!!!!!!!!

How about a companion shirt/mug reading DESIGNATED BLOGGER?

tawtv -- Totally Awesome Writers TV (All Bob & Jenny All the Time)

 
At 3/11/06 8:44 PM, rssasrb said...

Jenny, You and Bob posting on writing every week. Wow. Wow. Can't wait. Crickets, shmeckets

Haven't had time to scroll through the comments. Hey everyone.

 
At 3/11/06 8:45 PM, rssasrb said...

Yippee RG. Great news

 
At 3/11/06 9:31 PM, orangehands said...

rss, hey!


read Hot Toy. thank you Jenny. no more till everyone's read it. but those that have, go read the acknowledgments. hee hee.

 
At 3/11/06 9:43 PM, Mary said...

Oi, lot of comments. Who said there were crickets on this blog?

I tend to mis-read things. Fer instance,

btuda said...
Me thinks that travel time is relative.

Laying aside the question of whether Btuda is channeling ME (not "me"), I originally read this as:

Methinks that time travel is relative which sounded like a reeeeeally different comment and I was all eagerness for more details. Then I re-read it. Sigh.

Doing the snoopy dance for RB, chirping appreciatively at BCB, sending a hug to the Tigress, and feeling jealous of OH because Amazon only just shipped the dang book my way. Another sigh.

GG, I should post one of those pictures of the road to Halawa valley. Then they'll believe how narrow that road was. (Yikes.) It was only about 30 miles of road, but took forever to get there.

 
At 3/11/06 9:50 PM, Mary said...

And it is supposed to take a week to ship a book from Seattle to Portland? Sheesh, the STP is faster than that. What road are they taking?


sboazi - a feeble excuse, as in "I sboazi bus musta broke down, dat's why I couldn't make it to work this morning."

 
At 3/11/06 10:34 PM, ZaZa said...

Congrats rg!!! When you decide to get back to the writing, you don't mess around.


BUSINESS
bon cheri bomb said...
I thought Mary said: Friends don't let friends drink and blog.
But I'm easily confused. Maybe it's just that I like that better than "blog drunk."

You're right. I think that's what she said. That's why I said I paraphrased, making it match the very recognizable, "friends don't let friends drive drunk." More likely to sell outside the CBs that way, IMO, and the CP shop isn't just for our entertainment, it's a fund raiser, so we want to help sales. If someone wants images we have but wants to make something for themselves, they can let me know. We can't give out images for others to sell, because they were donated by the artists for our use, but you can make your own item to go in our shop.

I say "our shop," but at the moment, it's in my shop. Once we have raised some more cash via sales, I'll open a CB shop. Payment statements show what merchandize was sold, so I can allocate money from sales of CB stuff to paying for our own shop when there's enough. It's roughly $60/yr, which is pretty reasonable, when you think of the possibilities.

Anyway, any of the stuff I've put up so far is ONLY A SAMPLE. The images are not good quality, so hold off on ordering until we have the good stuff. ;+)))


talpianna said...
How about a companion shirt/mug reading DESIGNATED BLOGGER?

We can do that.

Can you tell I've been procrastinating today??? Still haven't done any NaNo words. Think I need to begin again.

 
At 3/11/06 11:05 PM, orangehands said...

zaza: get writing, lady. you have words that need to be put down.

mary, i read your btuda quote as "Methinks that time travel is relative", as opposed to the actual quote of "Me thinks that travel time is relative", and then i read your comment on it, and i didn't see any difference, and...nice to hear from you, mary. and LMAO about "channeling ME"

 
At 3/11/06 11:22 PM, dee said...

ok, read through and can't believe nobody mentioned...
Jenny said...(Stop screaming, CBs, it’s not going to be like this year’s, you can’t play on it, which is why we made you set up your own space.)

Now tell me - who screamed? Because you know *I* did. As soon as I read it, I started doing the fan girl squee thing, and then I read that "Stop screaming" and went "Doh, she heard me!" And actually looked around...my...own...office... Like someone was going to repeat "Stop Screaming" or something. So maybe we shouldn't be mentioned to any shrinks, huh?

Penny- good going on NaNo.
RG- WTG. You so totally rock!
ZaZa - Get to writing!
BCB - you crack me up.
GG- That road sounds really scary. I think I would have turned around way before then.
Tal - I'm sooooo glad you're back I was just asking about you recently. I've missed you.
bryan - glad the thumb is healing. Tell that little cookie-chicklet to back off, you already have your hands full with all of us (No, not that way either, geez!)
whoever is doing the cookie exchange (no, not THAT kind, sheesh!) - my daughter wants to participate, so count me in.

I've been jammin on NaNo this week. At the end of Day 3 (today), I've written 8400 out of 50000. Since my goal is 1750 per day, I'm ahead of myself. It's just a good feeling. Thanks for the e-mails and encouragement. I really appreciate it!

 
At 3/11/06 11:24 PM, Anonymous said...

Zaza said: Congrats rg!!! When you decide to get back to the writing, you don't mess around.

Yeah, that's 'cause I have no life other than my imaginary one. Heh. Thank you so much everyone for sharing in the snoopy dance. You all looked sooooo cute and the music was delightful.

And BCB: contract offer? I can only dream. Nephele Tempest of the Knight Agency has the full manuscript of Gone Tropical. I'm keeping my fingers crossed. *grin*
rg

 
At 4/11/06 12:09 AM, dee said...

Ok, somebody please tell me where the hell I've been that I didn't know about this...

http://www.booksfree.com/

It's freakin Netflix, but books. I mean, WHY didn't I know about this? HOW could I not have heard about this? Has it been mentioned here, because I don't remember it! It's like the library, but they send the stuff right to your door. And ok, yeah, you have to pay a small fee, but you'd know that was actually a SMALL FEE when compared to late fees on 5 books each for 6 kids, every time we hit the library. So I'm thinking, This thing might be worth it.

Anybody here do it yet? If so, I want some details, baby!

 
At 4/11/06 12:22 AM, glamour-geek said...

dee sez: GG- That road sounds really scary. I think I would have turned around way before then.

30 miles in about 1-1/2 hours. :)

You can ask my passenger if it was really scary. I thought it was ok, actually kind of fun. A bit like route 1 only narrower and with a lot less traffic. I was just anxious about the time. If I'd known we had plenty of time, I would have relaxed and gone slower and used more of the pull outs so we could take photos.

The next day going up and down Mt. Haleakala was nothing in comparison. It had a lane in each direction, paved beautifully, no falling rocks though a couple of pheasants who were bent on committing suicide in front of the car, though I did not allow them to, tons of reflectors, and I'd done it the year before so I knew what it was like.

 
At 4/11/06 12:50 AM, Mary said...

I posted some photos from of the Road to Hell -- um, I mean Road to Halawa valley on my blog:

Mary's Blog

 
At 4/11/06 12:51 AM, Erica said...

Jenny said : Every Sunday one of us will post on a writing topic, and then the following Thursday, the other person will post a response to that post and whatever showed up in the comments on writing.

Yaaaaaay!!! More blog from the Cherry and the GAM!!! *dancing*


Jenny also said : Bob’s already planning something on Why Prologues Are Good. That’s going to be one ugly week.

lol
I had a prologue on the beginning of my current story (fantasy/supernatural)... then I read a blog Jenny posted some time ago about the evils of prologues, and thought 'How long has it been since I actually read a prologue?' (I took to flipping past prologues - unless they are Terry Pratchett - a long time ago. Do any long time fantasy readers actually continue to read them?) So the prologue got the axe. Works better now. My eyes no longer glaze over as I scroll by the first few pages :D


On other things, I went to see the pup the other day ("Rupert" - called Boof, by the mum's owner) and it turns out my fluffy angel has become a rowdy horror. Jo, (boof's mum's owner) finds this endearing and now wants to keep him and give me Boof's - aka Rupert - brother. Toffee Bear. Who is quiet, sweet and cuddly.
She's leaving the decision up to me *sigh*


Toffee: http://pets.webshots.com/photo/2520523910094870384vCymWJ

Boof (aka - Rupert): http://pets.webshots.com/photo/2232434880094870384Orfhzy

 
At 4/11/06 1:31 AM, Nanaimo G said...

Mary
"Snort" Ice-cream all over the screen.

green gbroj gam Bob rolled over Jenny. Jeez not like that

 
At 4/11/06 2:33 AM, glamour-geek said...

Erica: only you can say what personality pet better suits you, but if you still want Rupert (who I personally think is cuter), Rupert's mum's owner should NOT be able to renege on the deal!

If you're going to want a comrade who snuggles up to you and cuddles, that's one thing but if you want someone who's going to be impish and want to play a lot, that's another. You're going to have to work out what you want in a dog.

But don't you let the mum's owner intimidate you into picking a pet that doesn't satisfy you. Pets are not temporary and you're with them every day.

Good luck (and let us know what you decide)!

 
At 4/11/06 2:33 AM, Cary said...

Erica - OMG, Toffee Bear is tooo dang cute! How you will ever decide is beyond me.

****Ahem, COOKIE BIZ

Once again, any of you who want to participate in the Thanksgiving Goodie Exchange, please email me at cary_sanz@yahoo.com. I will put you on the list. Ten of you voted for Thanksgiving, but so far only 3 have signed up, so....

I'll try to update my blog (another-cb-TOTW.blogspot.com) this weekend with all the info.

gcjownup - I don't wanna grow up, I'm a Toys 'r Us kid....

 
At 4/11/06 9:24 AM, McB said...

RG - Yay! And Congrats!!

G-G and Mary: your road story reminds me of a visit to friends in AZ years ago. They took me site-seeing someplace - I think maybe Roosevelt dam? Anyway there was this windey 2 lane road up and up and up with steep sheer drops on the other side. The turns were so tight you could look out the side window and see where you had been only minutes before. Friend'd DH doing driving and white knuckled. Friend kept saying "I don't rememember it being like this." Don't know how she managed to forget.

Cary - I owe you an email, just realized. Dee, email Cary on behalf of DD.

Zaza - saw shop business and commented, similarly to k.l. But it probably got lost in the shuffle. Anyway I like the basic concept, but I think I do prefer Mary's version ... or something simple like "Don't Drink and Blog". And I'd have to go back and look at Lori's CB ideas page which I won't do now for fear of losing my entire comment ... but I think there was a martini glass picture I liked better. I'll get back to you on that.

 
At 4/11/06 10:02 AM, bon cheri bomb said...

The narrowing road story reminds me of the first time my (older) sister took me to see her new house. It's toward the end of a narrow private road winding through a heavily wooded area. First there was the standard "Dead End" sign. Then there was a "Private Road - No Trespassing" sign. Then there was a "No Outlet" sign. Then came the "No Turnaround Beyond This Point" sign. So I said to my sister (who, when we were little, always screamed and covered her eyes during the scary parts in The Wizard of Oz): Let me guess, the next one says "I'd Turn Back If I Were You." She still hasn't quite forgiven me for that.

RG: Never say never! I'm going to a book signing today for a writer in my chapter whose first book (with Tor) came out this week. She had been writing and submitting for SIXTEEN very long and frustrating YEARS before that first sale. Her second ms was due in August (yes, she made the deadline) and she is under contract with Tor for two more. Then she told us a month ago that she just signed a 2-book contract with Bantam for her urban-fantasy series. I can't tell you how excited we all are for her. Your turn will come -- but only if you keep writing. So go do that.

Yeah, yeah, I know. I will, too. Right after the signing.

bw

 
At 4/11/06 12:25 PM, glamour-geek said...

I think Mary exaggerates. I didn't think the road itself was that bad and it was rather fun to drive all those curves. Yes, the island does end just after the edge of the road, but it's not that sheer a drop off, there's a yard or so of verge and it's not a cliff face or anything, it's a slanted hill (steep, but not a cliff).

Honestly, the road was in MUCH better condition than Rte. 1 was last time I took that up the coast. Rte. 1 was a patchwork mess, eroded to one lane in places where there had been landslides after last year's heavy rains. Now that was scary, particularly as a lot of tourists who are unfamiliar with the road and with curvy roads in generally take it as a scenic route between Muir Woods/Stinson Beach and Point Reyes Station.

Those same tourists, going 2-1/2 MPH on the curves the whole way up, don't seem to understand what pull outs are for either so they back up traffic horrifically for those who do know the road and know where they are going.

Yeah, I know. Grouse, grouse, grouse.

 
At 4/11/06 12:55 PM, Scope Dope Cherrybomb said...

Great news rg Congratulations.

I am hoping my big news will be that I finished the 50,000 words in NaNo. How you doing zaza?

way to go dee keep up the good work. Are you with us christina and robin s?

dhrptld Nope brain too busy for that one.

 
At 4/11/06 1:08 PM, ZaZa said...

erica, can you take both??? They're both adorable. /;+) A matched set, as it were. How big did you say they will get???


Difficult roads - years ago, a friend and I went up to the silver mining area of California and stayed at one of the historic town. Um, maybe the only one. Columbia??? Anyway, there was a print artist who lived there, and she had made arrangements for us to go to his house to see/buy some of his prints.

The house was up the side of a mountain, sort of. The "driveway" was a, well, a mess - ungraded, unpaved, gully-washed. I was driving my MG, so I put it in first and made my way up, meandering a bit to avoid the worst of the hose and so as not to wedge a wheel in one of the gullies.

Turned out the guy wasn't there, just his rather attractive son who was a budding film producer. The drive wound around the house, in better shape at the top, but I was going to have to back up a fair distance to get turned around, and backing up I'm not so good at. So, when it came time to leave, I asked the cutey to guide me so as not to back into the side of the house. When he saw my car, he froze. "How did you get that up here?" he asked. "Un. I drove it?" LOL! Turns out no one without 4-WD was supposed to be able to scale the mountain. Dad was a bit antisocial and liked it that way.

So, yeah, if you tell me I have to get from here to there and that's the only way, I'll do it if it's humanly-mechanically possible. Stick shift helps, though. +)))


Still procrastinating, but I did make a new start on the NaNo book. Since no editing is allowed, I figure it's all good. /;+)

xupswt (green)
Xavier urged puppies so well trained.

 
At 4/11/06 3:22 PM, Christina said...

SDCB--Yup, I'm still with you, but I am rather behind. I don't think I'll be hitting the 50,000 word mark, but I'll have something which is better than the nothing I had before I started on Nov. 1.

I am also being distracted by all the fireworks being set off all around town for the past few days. And it's not over yet...

 
At 4/11/06 3:47 PM, AgTigress said...

"...being distracted by all the fireworks being set off all around town for the past few days. And it's not over yet."

It'll be okay after tomorrow! :-)

 
At 4/11/06 3:58 PM, Anonymous said...

Hey Jenny, any chance you can post the collage for Angnes?

 
At 4/11/06 5:22 PM, GatorPerson said...

And this one's for AgTigress - So we were travelling for a few days in Britain with an emphasis on northern Wales. During that time we had rented a car. Never mind that those guys drive on the WRONG side of the road, and that there is a tunnel at Conwy Castle through which all cars and BUSES must go to a car park. Because of the tilt of the roadbed and the bus height, they clear the walls by maybe 6 inches. Or less. But the ultimate was on a drive south of there through beautiful valleys on roads barely wide enough for one car. And sure enough, they had paved around a tree whose trunk stuck out somewhat into the roadbed. They haven't learned the good old Slash And Burn American way! We NEVER think to look out for trees growing in the road.

elbniywv: ELms, But Not In Your Wildest Visions. (yeah, there are no elms, probably, in Wales, but it fits.)
qqtcaey: Quit Quacking To Catch All Enemy YaaHoos.

 
At 4/11/06 6:18 PM, Christina said...

Is it cheating that most of the stuff I am writing in my Nano WIP is taken from my and my friends experiences?

 
At 4/11/06 6:27 PM, Mary said...

Christina worried thusly...

Is it cheating that most of the stuff I am writing in my Nano WIP is taken from my and my friends experiences?


Naah. Since even among the most intelligent and charming of friends, some disagreement will always exist about the experiences themselves. Your version will always be unique to you. (Is it coincidence that version and vision are such similar words?)

By the way, Gi-Gi, exaggerate? Moi? Forsooth. Your lawyers will be hearing from my lawyers shortly. As soon as I go out and get some lawyers. And find a way to pay for the lawyers. In other words, in a couple of decades... watch out.

(Oh come now. It's not a real Blog unless someone is threatening to either flame or sue someone else. I would have thrown in a reference to Godwin's law if I could have seen a way to do so without sounding too obvious ;)

zukxjotc - the branch of law dealing with petty InternecineNet feuds

 
At 4/11/06 6:35 PM, dee said...

christina- of course it's not cheating. "Write what you know". ;>)

GG- They built a road around a tree? That sounds like the kind of place I'd love to live.

Well, my 14yoDD and I both finished "Hot Toy". Of course, we both loved it. I especially appreciated the fac tthat it was suitable for her to read, so THANKS, JENNY. Of course, she's not reading the other two stories. And this is not because I won't allow it. It's because she asked if there was any YEX in the other two stories, and I honestly told her "Yes, lots". So she finished Jenny's story, said she LOVED it, and gave the book back. She said she really doesn't want to read the others...yet. But after reading "Hot Toy", she really wants to read more of Jenny's stories. She asked if there were any others that *she* would like, with little or no descriptive YEX in them. I told her that "Bet Me" was pretty tame, except that last chapter with the donuts. All the other ones I've read (which I think is ALL of Jenny's books) have contained very descriptive YEX, and my DD is just not interested in that yet. As such, she will NOT be reading my WTT anytime soon.
So, Any other suggestions?

 
At 4/11/06 6:44 PM, Mary said...

Dee,

The Cinderella Deal might work, if you can get ahold of a copy.

 
At 4/11/06 7:11 PM, McB said...

Dee, seems to me What The Lady Wants wasn't too bad (or too good, depending on how you look at it ;D). Of course you'll want to do a reread first to be sure. Admittedly its been a while since I read it myself. There's Yex in it, yeah, but seems to me that Jenny's early categories were slightly tamer; and in that one, IIRC, the yex didn't appear until way, maybe 2/3, into the story.

 
At 4/11/06 7:27 PM, Christina said...

I made over goal today. Hurray! That'll help make up for my first three days of not making 1,667 words each day.

Now to sleep.

Good luck to all other CB Nano-ers. May the girls in the basement be with you.

 
At 4/11/06 8:09 PM, Scope Dope Cherrybomb said...

Way to go Christina and Zaza and Dee and Robin S you are helping to make me write. 12,000+ as of today but I am not finished yet.

A weird thing is happening. I thought one thing was going to take place in the story and then I start writing and something else happens. Maybe Gabby came back or left a friend. I don't know. I am not sure I am writing this. I don't know who or what is. Dah,da dah dah, duh dum. Must be a ghost. Hah. I have a "ghost" writer.

I don't know about that robin s I hope she is writing the story she told us in New Jersey. That would explain why she is already at 14,000 words. She knows that story very well. I want to hear the end of it. Way to go Robin.

Back to work.

wsejcawn

We see early Jenny Crusie's as written neatly.

 
At 4/11/06 8:14 PM, McB said...

Christina
Zaza
Dee
Scope
RSS

I'm setting out a big bowl of dark chocolate M&Ms and I've got ginger ale in the cooler. Trust me, its very refreshing and the bubble clear out the cobwebs.

BOOK DONE YET?

 
At 4/11/06 8:46 PM, Louis said...

Gaterperson...

I remember that narrow entryway to Conwy Castle. We (DW and Youngest) were there in 1978. I have the greatest respect for English bus drivers. they take those big buses into the narrowest spaces that I would think twice about to take a standard size car. Somewhere I have pixs of the castle with seagulls perched on top. The youngest son had a great time running around inside the castle.

Mary...

At least that road is paved. As part of my job before I retired, mountaintopping was part of it, to get to microwave sites on top. Some of those are rather narrow and 4-wheel is required.

Your pixs are good!

To the NaNo girls...

Keep writing...looking forward to reading them sometime.

fjzxzq...red

finally, Jenny zips Xactly zany quotes

 
At 5/11/06 2:11 AM, Mary said...

This is a tangential comment.

I just wanted to express my appreciation for Louis.

It is so nice to have a gentleman around the place. (Heck, he even said my photos were nice, what more do you want? :)

 
At 5/11/06 2:12 AM, ZaZa said...

McB said...
I'm setting out a big bowl of dark chocolate M&Ms and I've got ginger ale in the cooler.
BOOK DONE YET?
Har. Har. I'll skip the dark chocolate anything, but a nice big, frosty ginger ale sounds really good. Don't mind if I do.

I've started a new beginning and, even as I'm writing it, I'm thinking, hmmm, maybe I want to scrap all this stuff and start way further in. Good thing it all counts. ;+)

cbzkp (green)
CBs zip killer pencils. (Eee. My brain is dead.)

 
At 5/11/06 2:59 AM, Erica said...

Thanks GG :) I'll have to decide within the next two weeks - I'm going to bring one of them home then.

Zaza, I have no idea what size either one will be... their dad(s) is(are) unknown. We are just guessing, from the diversity of the litter, that there was more than one father, lol.


RG, great news! congratulations :D

 
At 5/11/06 6:34 AM, Christina said...

MCB---oh so funny you are. :) (Yes, I'm channeling Yoda.)

Louis--you are very sweet, but this thing probably won't see the light of day.

It is helping me with turning off my internal editor though, but it's still a tough struggle, especially when MS Word highlights spelling mistake and I can't stop myself from going back to fix it.

 
At 5/11/06 10:35 AM, Scope Dope Cherrybomb said...

I go back and fix those too christina that's okay. Just keep plodding on. That is what I am doing. It's those green grammar thingys that say "fragment" or something that confuse the hell out of me. I just go on and do my best. After all I have a little kid in my story and she talks all breathlessly so of course it will be fragmented or whatever.

I will have both the ginger ale, diet please, and lots of dark chocolate M&Ms. Thanks mcb for thinking of us. This is better than cookies. Ah, the pause that refreshes.

I wonder if this is how Bob and Jenny got their start? Probably not. They are just natural geniuses.

I am remembering Jenny when I am finished this book if the publisher doesn't want it "They are just wrong." I know because Jenny said so.

zqbqlc

Zaza quickly brought questions, lacking chocolate. So it doesn't have to make sense does it? My ghost writer isn't here.

 
At 5/11/06 12:09 PM, McB said...

Christina -

You can turn off the "check spelling as you type" option in MS Word. Go to Tools on your menu, then Options, then Spelling & Grammar. Just uncheck the check spelling option. You can always turn in back on at any time and/or run a spell check.

And going to the same menu will give you the option to turn off Check Grammar as well.

 
At 5/11/06 2:20 PM, Louis said...

Thanks, Christina for your kind thoughts.

Anne Stuart wrote something for us readers in "Shadow Lover"....".... anyone with any sence finds the time to read, or their brain atrophies and their soul shrivels."

I like that...it's in chapter three.

Maybe it's the same for writers...they have to get the words on paper for others to read.

midbsh...blue

mid bash

 
At 5/11/06 5:52 PM, Diane said...

Erica - Glamour-geek said it well, and, really, how rambunctious can Rupert be, if he sat still to have his photo taken? Both were EXTREMELY cute, but Rupert had an "I'm game for anything, what shall we play next?" look about him, which might be right for you or not. Different dogs suit different people, so it's all about what's going to work for you. Just think about how Nina ended up with Fred (Anyone but You). Not what she was looking for, but just what she needed.

So, there appears to be an occasional commenter also named Diane. Which means that it may be time for a name change for me. I'm considering possibilities ranging from college nicknames (dizzy) to those that identify things in which I'm interested or personality traits: Eco-CherryBomb; Verbose CherryBomb; Chocoholic CherryBomb. Or I could just call myself Venetia, just because I like it (not Cordelia, thank you - it was one thing when that just brought to mind Anne, but now that there's the mental image of Charisma Carpenter, I just can't live up to that - though Anne of Green Gables might well have liked her). The last initial thing, which would be easy, won't work, because they appear to be the same. Besides, I clearly missed an opportunity to be creative (because I dither over options). I'll let you know what I decide (feel free to express an opinion, with the understanding that the choice of pseudonym may freak me out entirely and cause me to call myself Twinkletoes). Or I could be TPFKADiane.

pkxzva: pseudonyms kontaining x, z, very active (sorry about the k, but I'm not very smart tonight)

antrhc: a name trade reaches hidden characteristics

 
At 5/11/06 8:13 PM, orangehands said...

dee: you beautiful, beautiful woman. i didn't know about this netflix for books either. you wonderful, gorgeous, lovely, and any-other-adjective-you-want lady.

as for DD, are you looking for another author or a Jenny book she'd like more? if it's the latter, maybe Getting Rid of Bradley? i don't remember the sex scenes in that one being particularly long. or maybe Faking It (technically there's only three sex scenes in that book, right? i mean, sex scenes that are written out). worse comes to worse, she can just do what i once did: skip over it. you can put post-its on the parts so she knows where she skip if she doesn't want to read any, or she can skim down the page until they seem done. but yeah, Jenny's earlier books seem like the best bet (except Sizzle!)

erica: both dogs are so adorable. geez, i miss my puppy at home.

diane: *another one bites the dust* so, you want a new name too? i vote for Twinkletoes. it'll be very easy to remember. :)

christina, zaza, dee, scope dope, and rss (and if i left anybody off, i got this list from MCB's post, blame her): hope you continue to do well. and as MCB said,

BOOK DONE YET?

also (this is for anyone who knows the answer) you can't edit your NaNo stuff? why is that? because they just want to focus on writing or...?

 
At 5/11/06 10:50 PM, ZaZa said...

orangehands said...
also (this is for anyone who knows the answer) you can't edit your NaNo stuff? why is that? because they just want to focus on writing or...?

Well, it's not a real rule. More an idea that if you start editing, you'll never get to 50k. Remember, the folks who started this weren't writers. A few years ago, there was a really funny article that perfectly depicted the no editing idea. If I can find it, I'll post a quote.

Hot Toy...rant incoming
Sorry, I've got to say this - NSA has analysts and scientists. It does not have agents. NSA does not do that stuff. And, I'm crying in the wilderness on this one, but it's either "the National Security Agency" or "NSA," never "the NSA." A pox on the people who started all that crap on X-Files.
end rant

daylwev
what the bald guy gets every day?

 
At 6/11/06 3:23 AM, Cary said...

Zaza, back away from the caffeine. NOW.

LOL, at your NSA rant. I never gave much thought to it, but you are correct. I think I heard that criticism used with a TV show or a movie a few years back.

Isn't there a whole agent v operative thing with the CIA too?

 
At 6/11/06 3:24 AM, Cary said...

And, hey, why didn't the Bob catch and correct this?

 
At 6/11/06 8:52 AM, me said...

RG: way to go on placing with your story!!
Mary and OH: I hope no one is channeling me. I wouldn't wish me on my own worst enemy. Hmmmm. Well, maybe I would that. But if I was somehow coming through to somone, I apologize, and heavy drinking will cure that.

 
At 6/11/06 10:20 AM, Diane (for now) said...

I wondered about NSA (though not very much) - I knew they were mostly in the signal-intercepting business. So, if they were to find out about a situation such as that in "Hot Toy", would they ask the FBI to take care of it for them, rather than going themselves? Maybe analysts sometimes get spy fever and go all cowboy? I'll bet they'd get in trouble, though.

 
At 6/11/06 10:38 AM, McB said...

DFN said ... So, if they were to find out about a situation such as that in "Hot Toy", would they ask the FBI to take care of it for them, rather than going themselves?

Government agencies cooperating??? *snort*

nogjlhog: a holiday tradition

 
At 6/11/06 9:30 PM, orangehands said...

mcb said "Government agencies cooperating??? *snort*"

LMAO

zaza: thanks for the info about NaNo

uh, Spoiler Alert, i guess.

i thought the whole plot line was just funny as opposed to being realistic. if it is being done, well, that's very scary. some three year old may have a bomb code in their hands.

 
At 7/11/06 12:51 AM, ZaZa said...

Cary said...
And, hey, why didn't the Bob catch and correct this?

Actually, I was in the midst of caffeine deprivation. I wasn't so totally lost to all sense that I didn't think of that. But, then, I've jumped on Bob with both feet a couple times already. /;+) But why didn't he??? I guess I just don't understand why people use NSA, when they've got CIA and FBI and all those places who do stuff like that. Maybe I should be flattered...people think I worked someplace sexy and glamourous. Little do they know. ;+)


Diane (for now) said...
I wondered about NSA (though not very much) - I knew they were mostly in the signal-intercepting business. So, if they were to find out about a situation such as that in "Hot Toy", would they ask the FBI to take care of it for them, rather than going themselves? Maybe analysts sometimes get spy fever and go all cowboy? I'll bet they'd get in trouble, though.

NSA analyzes stuff and writes reports for their clients, not even cowboy in that way. The Executive Branch and CIA are two main ones. NSA is never, ever (barring nucking futz, power mad Presidents) allowed to do anything (no collecting, no processing, no analysis) with communications inside the U.S. It's in their charter, and there are reasons for that. That's why it drove me so nuts when Bush did that thing using Homeland Security as the excuse. Buncha cowboys, indeed, and not in a good way. (No reflection on Louis and his sons.)

Anyone seen/remember Dr. Strangelove???

NSA also has scientists who do some cutting edge work on developing communications stuff and like that.

BTW, I loved the story aside from that. ;+)

etutjjw (red)
my brain can't do it

 

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